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[British Red]

Leon,

Just had a look at your kit list....I would suggest a few more bits mate -

billy can or cooking pot
water purification gear
waterproofs
whistle
dry bag / rucksack cover
poly bag for rubbish (pack it in - pack it out)


More will come to mind - I have photographed and described my entire 72 hr bag somewhere - have a hunt on the search facility - if you can't find it let me know and I'll post it somewhere for you again (makes a handy checklist). It'll be late tonight though as I am running a course this evening

Red

 

[leon-b]

here is the kit list in 3 piles.
essential, useful and luxury

Kit checklist

Rucksack
Tarp
Tent / Hammock
Sleeping bag
Knife
Lighter + Matches
First Aid Kit
Hexi cooker
Toilet Kit
Mug + water bottle
Para cord
Bungee’s
Mobile
Torch + Batteries
Food
1 pair of clothes
Fire lighting kit

KFS
Compass
Map
Note Pad + Pencil
Saw
Woolen blankets
brew kit

Towel
Food for Free book
Collins tree ID book
Gloves
Pillow case

 

[British Red]

I would certainly rate map, compass and gloves into the essential pile mate

Red

 

[Fenlander]

Hi guys,

Been away for a couple of days. I see there's lots to catch up with

Spamel, yes you can post the stuff to me......everyone else is! I think I am now Leon's official postman

Hugh, I've only ever found crampball on Ash, Birch is a new one to me.

Leon, you could just bring your knife, first aid kit and clothes but bring whatever kit you have and we'll go through it and set up your hammock and tarp and stuff like that. I have the feeling this is going to be a veeeerrrryyyyy full day

Leon, did your mum get my email by the way

 

[leon-b]

fenlander yes my mum did get the directions email
i havent yet got a hammock but i am getting one soon, i do have a basha so i will bring that along
red ok i will put map, compass and gloves in essensial
by gloves what type do you mean
thanks leon

 

[British Red]

Leon,

If its cold you will certainly need "warm" gloves. Cold hands are a real strength sapper. Imagine freezing hands for, say 2 days!

All year round, I carry a pair of suede or leather work gloves if I'm going to do any "heavy" work (Rigger suede gloves can be had for a couple of quid in any DIY store). If its other than summer I carry a pair od "sealskins" light waterproof and breathable gloves - winter I carry Goretex / thinsulate overgloves

Red

 

[leon-b]

some gloves are really warm but they are also bulky and they restict finger movement
what do you think is the best option to go for
thanks leon

 

[British Red]

Leon,

Depends what you are doing and where. For the UK, Sealskinz are really good - thin, warm and waterproof with "sticky" palms so you don't drop stuff. In the snow etc. you need really thick warm gloves. Handling chopped wood etc., something tougher to avoid splinters

This is why we plan our kit before a trip - it depends what you are doing. I have a pair of battered old leather work gloves that are enough protection, not too bulky and quite warm. I use these as my normal carry. I add others depending on the weather

Red

 

[leon-b]

ok i have some really warm gloves that i bought for a ski trip will these do in really cold winter conditions

 

[bogflogger]

That's a Good Selection of Essential Gear!

I have now added a Pillowcase to my own Essential list- Thanks Leon.

Just for comparison, here's my own Essential Gear List, for Bushcraft and Backpacking:

1. Rucksack.+stuffbags/drybags.

2. Tarp + Paracord. and/or Tent. (depends on where I'm going and the time of year.)

3. Bivvy Bag. (Essential in the Mountains, or for keeping a Casualty warm- ALWAYS taken with me.)

4. Sleeping Bag + l/w polycotton liner bag and a Pillow Case. (stored in a Canoeing Drybag)

5. Sleep Mat. + repair kit.

6. Headlamp. +spares.

7. Small torch. + spares.

8. Candle.(s)

9. Firesteel, Lighter, Matches, Tinder box, Leather Work Gloves.

10. Knifes + sharpening kit. (I use a Frosts Clipper and a Swiss Army 'Huntsman', because it has scissors and a woodsaw on it.)

11. Cooker. + fuel.

12. Billies.

13. Mug and Spoon. (I hate Sporks!)

14. Water Bottle(s). + Puritabs.

15. Brew Kit. (all in one stuffbag)

16. Food Bag(s) and containers.

17. Emergency Food. (enough munchies for if I get stuck for 48 hours, on the wrong side of a raging Scottish River) :Thinkingo

18. First Aid Kit. ( kept in a rucksack pocket, so I can grab it quickly)

19. Pocket Survival kit and Whistle.

20. Spares/Repairs kit.

21. Compass.

22. Map(s) + Mapcase.

23. Notebook, Pen and Pencil.

24. Personal Pouch. (for wallet, keys, mobile, etc.)

25. Washbag and small Towel. (plus some Babywipes or travelwipes)

26. Loo roll. (in a ziplock plastic bag)

27. Spare Clothing. (including warm gear and Wooly hat and gloves)

28. Any other Essential Gear needed: Ice Axe and Crampons, Axe, Saw, Camera gear, Books, Binoculars, etc. (depends on what, where, and time of year).

This is my own selection, everybody's different so no two people will have exactly the same ideas on gear.

As long as you have the Essential Emergency Gear, then all the rest depends on what gear you like yourself.

 

[leon-b]

thanks mate it is helpful for me to compare kit
it seems i have got just about everything
when i go out i will start deciding what i didnt use and remove it from my list
i dont really want to take that much just the essentials and a few others
leon

 

[leon-b]

i am going to buy some rubble bags
they are cheap, strong and waterproof
good for storing things in what you want to keep dry
they are also big enough to use as a ruck sack cover

 

[bogflogger]

Yes, thats a good plan.

You might also want to start looking around at stuff in supermarkets, things like plastic lunchboxes/freezer boxes are pretty useful and come in loads of sizes.

Another good source of useful containers is empty plastic Multi-vitamin containers and other stuff like that.

 

[leon-b]

yes i am collecting empty pots and bottle at the moment from my kitchen
i have filled one bottle with washing up liquid
and when i get another i will fill it with cooking oil

 

[Fenlander]

I'll be out tomorrow night Leon so if you have any final questions before Saturday, ask now Otherwise I look forward to meeting you at 10 on Saturday morning.

 

[British Red]

if you have any questions ask now .

Fenlander,

I have a question ...."Why is there only one monopolies commission?"

Sorry, couldn't resist

Leon,

If you want to see whats in my 72hour bag have a look here

Reds kit list

You'll have to scroll down a bit but thats the stuff I keep ready packed for sudden "grab and go" moments - I completely re-pack for planned trips with my "best" gear and turf out loads of it (especially the over large first aid kit which is really only for remote travel and large extended trips). It'll give you some ideas though of things to consider. Its nowhere near all needed and it covers lots of situations - adapt and reduce it to suit your needs - it is all photographed and inventoried though (down to how many bars of chocolate etc.)

You may not need the hip flask

Red

 

[leon-b]

fenlander no i dont have any more questions so i will see you on saturday
red that is an exelent kit list thanks it has helped me alot
thanks leon

 

[British Red]

Glad it was useful Leon - have a great time on Saturday my friend

Red

 

[odin13]

yeah have a good time leon, sounds like its going to be really good are you taking any pics by the way?
Cheers,
Alex

 

[leon-b]

yes i will be taking lots of pics
and i will post them all on here
thanks leon