No heat instant/emergency food?

[haptalaon]

Should we have a near misses and incidents discussion section. on this website? Trip reports are good and I enjoy reading them, but they're not the same thing.

Oh that's an interesting thought. I know the one on the scubaboard also posts a lot of links from the news - obvs scuba diving is so inherently dangerous and quite a small world, so all news about dangers occuring in particular resorts or caves or tour operators are not just gossip, it's information you might need directly when planning your next trip.

They have ground rules we'd need to implement too, to avoid 'blamestorm'ing - i.e. keep it constructive and compassionate.

 

[Jared]

The ingredients for Plumpy Nut, the nut butter they give to malnurished kids.

25kg skim milk powder
25kg whey
25kg maltodextrin
12.5kg sucrose
1kg vitamins
40kg peanut paste
40kg oil

Guessing could make something similar mixing peanut butter, Nido (fortified milk powder), and sugar.

 

[Tengu]

That is something I would take.

A lot of these survival foods seem to have a lot of sugar. I am diabetic and I dont overtly like sweet stuff to begin with.

So, no Kendall mint cake.

not even chocolate covered.

 

[TeeDee]

Terry Pratchet solved the problem of eating your emergency rations too soon with his “dwarf bread”. In an emergency you pull it out, look at it and decide that you’d rather eat anything else - like your boots - rather than that.

Kendal Mint Cake is perfect survival food for those who don’t like it! If you don’t want to eat it then you’re not desperate enough yet!

Datrex emergency food rations - same thing.

 

[Herman30]

Fandabi Bannock recipe on YouTube

Now that is something I could imagine eating. I would probably take some smokey jerky and blend it to a powder instead of sugar and raisins.

 

[haptalaon]

Now that is something I could imagine eating. I would probably take some smokey jerky and blend it to a powder instead of sugar and raisins.

[the link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0cxV2vVC0U) for anybody who wants to try it.

It took me three goes to make ones i was happy with, i am a very poor cook. The trick is to start preheating the oven as your very first step, then measure out ingredients and mix them etc, so the oven is warm enough the moments the biscuits go in.

He says cook briefly at very hot and then optionally dehydrate at a lower temperature for a long period of time; i have a gas stove and i've never successfully just made them at the brief hot temperature, they have to go in the full time.

 

[Ozmundo]

I would carry Marzipan but I can't not eat it... really cost me a lot in Dental bills!

My favorites are dog biscuits from the agricultural store that look like small shredded wheat and Biltong. The latter has played havoc with my girlish figure however.

I have most of an ORP or two in the car and some variety of curry in my day sack. I do have one of those chemical heaters as well as a hexi/twig burner. I'd use the chem heater if not be able to light something but I don't really like them.

 

[Pattree]

The ingredients for Plumpy Nut, the nut butter they give to malnurished kids.

25kg skim milk powder
25kg whey
25kg maltodextrin
12.5kg sucrose
1kg vitamins
40kg peanut paste
40kg oil

Guessing could make something similar mixing peanut butter, Nido (fortified milk powder), and sugar.

How long does 168.5 Kilograms last you?????

 

[bearbait]

Logan Bread is another option. It's a flapjack / biscuit-like thing. A search will find you some recipes. It's long-life and pretty well balanced with quick and slow release stuff. Takes time to chew too. I make a batch from time to time.

This is a post where I quote the recipe I use. But there are other recipes out there.

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Post in thread 'Homemade energy bars'

Jan 26, 2019

Here ya go Woody Girl:
I used Polenta a previous time I made Logan Bread from the recipe below as I had a problem sourcing Soy Grits. Last time I decided to try it, as per the recipe, with Soy Grits as they are much higher in protein than Polenta and the bread was designed as an expedition food with a good balance of protein, carbs, fats, etc.
As far as the fruit content went I used finely chopped dried Cranberries, Figs, Dates, Apple, Chewy Banana, Apricots.
And for nuts I used Walnuts, Hazelnuts, Brazils and Cashews.
There are a number of Logan Bread recipes out there. Some include
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[Glow_worm]

I am diabetic and I dont overtly like sweet stuff to begin with.

So, no Kendall mint cake.

not even chocolate covered.

I took have health troubles and struggle to get enough calories in on a daily basis, let alone when pushing myself.

I have autoimmune trouble which doesn't respond to medication yet I can live a normal life by cutting all starch out my diet. I still have some inflammation though so can't have too much fat either. I basically eat salmon, lean meat, some non-starchy veg and fruit.

I can tolerate a small amount of macadamia nut butter and some dried fruit, small amounts of honey, and a bit of hard goats cheese. That's it for 'energy' foods. I get through my norm of physical working days on three meat/veg meals with a bit of filling in with the above, but it's very hard to keep weight on.

Outdoor adventures require careful planning and supplies of pre-booked meat eaten cold or reheated. Oh how easy it would be if I could even eat, say, oats!

 

[Tengu]

Its amazing how the weight goes off with few carbs.

I dont even try to regulate my fat intake much, yet I lose weight slowly (As Doc advises) when I stay away from carbs.

 

[Jared]

How long does 168.5 Kilograms last you?????

Heh. List was from the patent.

 

[Moondog55]

If I was serious about this I'd just get a pack of lifeboat rations. Long shelf life; relatively easy to open [ although a knife helps] and reasonably energy efficient. Next is my plastic bottle of olive oil and jelly beans.
But seriously if we are talking about below freezing conditions the main worry is re-hydration and for that you must have a stove and fuel plus a pot so you may as well take soup packets too

 

[Toddy]

I don't think it unreasonable, if I were going someplace remote and cold, wet and miserable if the weather turns, to take along at least one of the self heating meals.
They're not cheap, but they're reliable and they work to give you something easy to use even when you are half frozen and clumsy. It's warm food without much fuss.

Like these,

Buy Self Heating Food Meals & Drinks from EVAQ8 UK

Self heating food, MRE, self heating meals in a pouch, hot meal kits, flameless ration heaters from EVAQ8.co.uk

evaq8.co.uk

Having said that, you can buy the sachets meant for heating rat packs for all of 99p (before postage)

British Army FRH Flameless Ration Heater Pouch

These Genuine British Army FRH Flameless Ration Heater Pouch are direct from the British Army and are designed to be a discreet, easy and fast way to

preppersshop.co.uk

 

[TeeDee]

I don't think it unreasonable, if I were going someplace remote and cold, wet and miserable if the weather turns, to take along at least one of the self heating meals.
They're not cheap, but they're reliable and they work to give you something easy to use even when you are half frozen and clumsy. It's warm food without much fuss.

Like these,

Buy Self Heating Food Meals & Drinks from EVAQ8 UK

Self heating food, MRE, self heating meals in a pouch, hot meal kits, flameless ration heaters from EVAQ8.co.uk

evaq8.co.uk

Having said that, you can buy the sachets meant for heating rat packs for all of 99p (before postage)

British Army FRH Flameless Ration Heater Pouch

These Genuine British Army FRH Flameless Ration Heater Pouch are direct from the British Army and are designed to be a discreet, easy and fast way to

preppersshop.co.uk

Price wise they are better than I expected and will get some for the car in case I come across any miserable looking breakdown victims.
I know they will be a tad light in over all calories but Hot(ish) calories in can be topped up with ( as Moondog mentioned ) some oil calories mixed in - sure its a bit greasier but the hungrier and colder one is the less its noticed or cared about I think.

 

[Pattree]

Heh. List was from the patent.

Sorry mate. On reflection I shouldn’t have been surprised. The Goal Ireland nuns in Ethiopia cooked up 80kg drums of high protein porridge. Don’t ask me what was in it.

 

[Buckshot]

Whilst these wont win any awards for the best tasting meal ever! they aren't bad. Just not exciting...

Buy Seven Oceans Biscuits Emergency Rations 0.5kg 2500 Kcal

High Energy Biscuits (HEBs) Emergency Food Rations. This Seven Oceans long life survival biscuit ration requires no preparation and may be eaten directly from the box. Halal and vegetarian suitable NATO stock number 8970-25-145-1140

evaq8.co.uk

Good shelf life and reasonable price.

 

[TLM]

I carried Norwegian survival biscuits a few times when flying to holidays, not any more. Apparently they contain so much oil that they show as bloody jam on those infernal scanners like my birding books catch all the time. So many false positives and nobody thought that there might be as many false negatives, which would make the whole shebang half way meaningless.

 

[forrestdweller]

I do a variant on the Fandabi Bannock recipe on YouTube - he designed it to blend the qualities of pemmican, bannock and hard tack, and after a couple of practice runs mine taste gorgeous. You need to eat 2 to sustain yourself

i tried a simplified version last year for an overnighter and kept one leftover to see if it would survive a few days longer without refrigeration in our obscene tropical humidity (it did, but i wouldn't suggest long-term storage): having no oven and to bake them in a frying pan over open fire is more tricky and makes the production of larger amounts time-consuming + i ate more than two a day and rice+lentils for diner. but overall i'd call it a working solution (and this thread gives me some more ideas )

 

[JonathanD]

If you’re looking at warm meals. US MREs are great and the heating pouch is a right bottom to put out.