Bushcraft PLCE webbing

[jonajuna]

my apologies, for arrogance, insensitivity and posting when full of pent up anger from a bad day.

my apologies especially to rappleby2000 and of course to all service men/women past and present, whom i have the utmost respect and gratitude for the dangerous job they do to keep me and other civvies safe

i realise that it is likely my apology will be seen as lip service or too little too late. will endeavour to keep opinions to myself or at least express them objectively without mudslinging

 

[widu13]

Mate, to step up like that takes some. No hard feelings on my part. I suspect that will be the case for everyone else too.

 

[RAPPLEBY2000]

thanks for the PM apologies accepted!

my apologies, for arrogance, insensitivity and posting when full of pent up anger from a bad day.

my apologies especially to rappleby2000 and of course to all service men/women past and present, whom i have the utmost respect and gratitude for the dangerous job they do to keep me and other civvies safe

i realise that it is likely my apology will be seen as lip service or too little too late. will endeavour to keep opinions to myself or at least express them objectively without mudslinging

I wasn't so worried about myself more the avalanche of **** that would have been heading your way from a lot of servicemen/women.:theyareon
Opinions are always welcome, it would be boring if we were all the same!
no probs mate, it takes guts to apologise!

 

[phaserrifle]

well, I've broken out my webbing again, for a trip up to scotland over the half term (leave tommorow)
the way I've got is set up is this (clockwise while wearing it, starting to the right of the buckle):
1x PLCE utillity pouch
1x dutch (I think) entrenching tool pouch, with the pointy end cut off to accomodate an entrenching tool of unkown origins.
1x mag-lite pouch
1x PLCE resperator haversack, as a "butt pouch"
1x web-tex PLCE water bottle pouch
1x unknown dump pouch in DPM

I've got it on a web-tex belt and yoke, and have a pair of bergan side pouches attached to the yoke above the resi pouch.

I'll have to see how well it works in the snow, in the cairngorms.

 

[widu13]

well, I've broken out my webbing again, for a trip up to scotland over the half term (leave tommorow)
the way I've got is set up is this (clockwise while wearing it, starting to the right of the buckle):
1x PLCE utillity pouch
1x dutch (I think) entrenching tool pouch, with the pointy end cut off to accomodate an entrenching tool of unkown origins.
1x mag-lite pouch
1x PLCE resperator haversack, as a "butt pouch"
1x web-tex PLCE water bottle pouch
1x unknown dump pouch in DPM

I've got it on a web-tex belt and yoke, and have a pair of bergan side pouches attached to the yoke above the resi pouch.

I'll have to see how well it works in the snow, in the cairngorms.

Sounds interesting. How have you attached the side pouches?

 

[RAPPLEBY2000]

you can attach newer side pouches directly to the webbing yoke, they have a male and female QR clip at the top the older PLCE side pouches Like mine(circa 90) only have the female clip.

also at the base of the Side pouch is a small QR clip with a loop, the loop is designed to attach to the webbing belt, thus the side pouch is attached top and bottom to the yoke.
when fitted together like that it means technically the side pouches are part of your webbing so if you want something out of them you have to take your webbing off, but it is a tidy way of doing it. and it means you don't need the side pouch yoke.

I've tried it and always preferred using a separate yoke for the side pouches.

 

[widu13]

you can attach newer side pouches directly to the webbing yoke, they have a male and female QR clip at the top the older PLCE side pouches Like mine(circa 90) only have the female clip.

also at the base of the Side pouch is a small QR clip with a loop, the loop is designed to attach to the webbing belt, thus the side pouch is attached top and bottom to the yoke.
when fitted together like that it means technically the side pouches are part of your webbing so if you want something out of them you have to take your webbing off, but it is a tidy way of doing it. and it means you don't need the side pouch yoke.

I've tried it and always preferred using a separate yoke for the side pouches.

My '89 yoke has no QR fastenings. That explains that then

 

[al21]

Just like to say that I've joined the 'Webbing Wearers Bushcrafters Club'. Recently aquired some PLCE webbing and will give it a whirl to see if it helps solves some of the issues I have with a daybag, or if it gets me sent to Guantanamo Bay for possession of 'A field guide to British Butterflies and Moths', a couple of water bottles and a FAK.

We'll see how I get on with it and if it ends up back on E-bay.

 

[phaserrifle]

it ended up I only used the webbing for the first day.
one of the major things PLCE lacks for winter use is somewhere to store an ice axe.....

 

[SCOMAN]

I have something similar to the Aarnpack balance pockets. They were made by Craghoppers for attaching to the shoulder straps on any rucksack. In fact I think they were called balance pockets. I've only used them a few times I might break them out again. For my tuppence worth I'm ex RN and have shied away from PLCE kit although I did try an assault vest for a while. At the minute for short walks I've got a Maxpedition knock off that I plan on using with a rucksack for longer trips for those essentials it's nice to keep to hand.

 

[RAPPLEBY2000]

I only noticed it the other day....

next time you see "Tommy walsh" (the big builder from ground force) have a look at his belt and braces....

i watched him on a program recently, he wears a standard tool belt with various pockets and pouches, and noticed the braces aren't attached to his trousers...

....the braces are holding up the belt.....it's a yoke!

and wouldn't you know it...he sells them!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tommy-Walsh...ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=diy&qid=1268503160&sr=8-1

mabey that's the way forward, wear non matching pouches with bad braces on a leather belt!

now is everyone happy?

 

[launditch1]

Nah..im gonna start wearing a full set of 37 pattern webbing.That'll upset the purists!
Bushcraft Expiditionary Force!!

 

[Matt.S]

Nah..im gonna start wearing a full set of 37 pattern webbing.That'll upset the purists!
Bushcraft Expiditionary Force!!

And a .303 rifle for deer, clasp knife for carving, e-tool for shovel recce, sword-bayonet for chopping and a leather jerkin for the cold.

 

[launditch1]

Thats the idea!And a tin hat for protection.Dunno about .303..maybe a Bren!

Funny tin hat story:A friend of mine saw an old boy in Ireland gardening wearing a tin hat.He shouted to him:'dont you know the war's over?To which the old boy replied 'ah, good, Victoria will be pleased!'

 

[Matt.S]

Thats the idea!And a tin hat for protection.Dunno about .303..maybe a Bren!

Bren, what's that when it's at home then? I want one of them new-fangled Maxim guns, though it'll never beat the bayonet. The Fuzzy-Wuzzies didn't like it up 'em in the Sudan!

Ah well got to go, I'm sailing off to Africa. A bunch of Cloggy farmers are getting a bit uppity again. They've got no chance, I hear they had to get their rifles from Germany of all places.

 

[launditch1]

Well, the best of British to you then!

 

[RAPPLEBY2000]

I hear brown is coming into fashion!
them fithy dirty soldiers have been rolling in the mud!, spoiling the queens uniform!

I'm disgusted! if you can't see you face in your belt buckle you should be shot!

dammit shoot the lot of em' anyway!

 

[sdf234]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the PLCE "NI" chest rig's utility pouches will hold a complete Crusader unit (Bottle, mug, steel mug, and cooker)?

 

[hogstable]

Should do easily maybe a bit of a faff with the cooker. Next time I'm out in the garage I'll check it out. The 58 bottle will fit in very well so the mug shouldn't be a problem.

 

[iano]

The 58 bottle will indeed fit in fine so I'd hazard a guess the mug etc will do as well. That said, the issue chest rig is a pretty minimal piece of kit - its pretty much set up for when you are carrying only the essentials (compare it to some of the beltkits you see set up with 2x double ammo and 4 or 5 water/utilities on them) - so I wouldn't be surprised if you had a hard time getting the full Crusader set up in.

My CRs in a different loc to where I am at the mo so I can't really check for you, but its pretty much just for mags, grens and water - light and fast for a specific task or role, and probably vehicle mounted too. Not so much for cooking and general purpose utility kit that would enable you to live for relatively-long periods out of only your CR in a wide range of scenarios.

That said, it is a pretty militant looking piece of kit. Not wanting to reignite a whole argument again, honest okenest: but personally webbing looks too militaristic for me to wear, unless obviously I'm on the Army's time... as for in my own time I would be uncomfortable using beltkit (you however may not be...) but chest rigs and assault vests etc are even more overtly military and basically give you a DPM torso to the front, and are designed more for 'bullets and water', not really practical for hiking kit. Are you sure you want to use one? :theyareon