Unfortunately I can see the Pro's AND Con's of Zoo's.
Its a juggling act of Animal welfare , Commerce and Education - I don't know many that can get the three aspects 'right' but I can see why Children can learn from a Good Zoo
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Lynx Escape - Dartmoor Zoo
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Unfortunately I can see the Pro's AND Con's of Zoo's.
Its a juggling act of Animal welfare , Commerce and Education - I don't know many that can get the three aspects 'right' but I can see why Children can learn from a Good Zoo
Please don't get you knickers in a twist, just give me 3 good educational reasons for visiting a zoo...
I can only see the cons...
Any pros?
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Teedee is not personal, we can agree to disagree , even if these posts are now poluting a good thread start...
Im thinking this is a vast subject, and no doubt lots of diferent opinions, maybe has its place on a thread of its own?
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Knickers are not in a twist - I normally go Commando. ( Z.F.G To Other peoples opinions. )
I'm not narked about talking about the subject matter but as ever it does surprise me how a thread starting asking a specific single question searching for Volunteers becomes hijacked and pounced upon from people making assumptions and judgements and putting forth their personal beliefs and then seemingly thinking they either 'know' my own beliefs or the person posting.
3 Good educational reasons :-
Education - To see the animal and then learn more from it and its population , endangerment in the world from the information that is supplied with it. Yes this information is available in books or on the internet but nothing can help put pounds into rescue programs better sometimes than having the animal and facts in front of you.
Education - To see and understand how Inter Zoo Breeding programs can be used to create and maintain a healthy and viable gene pool where in the wild the animal maybe failing.
Education - Dartmoor Zoological Zoo has a Panther ( in fact its a hybrid ) that was a privately owned animal for many years - due to it being brought up as a Pet Cat it doesn't know how to act in a behavioural sense - It would be useless in the Wild and die very quickly as it doesn't 'act' as it should. It has No place in any breeding program due to having mixed genetics , it is a Chimera - should it be put down for that ? I think that teaches something about Humanizing Wild animals and the problems that can inflict.
Education - The ability to study an subject Animal for Research at very close proximity for those that can't fund or commit to visit the native habitat.
Education - It allows Children to Form their OWN opinions on Animals in captivity and IF they should only be found in the wild.
I'm not narked about talking about the subject matter but as ever it does surprise me how a thread starting asking a specific single question searching for Volunteers becomes hijacked and pounced upon from people making assumptions and judgements and putting forth their personal beliefs and then seemingly thinking they either 'know' my own beliefs or the person posting.
3 Good educational reasons :-
Education - To see the animal and then learn more from it and its population , endangerment in the world from the information that is supplied with it. Yes this information is available in books or on the internet but nothing can help put pounds into rescue programs better sometimes than having the animal and facts in front of you.
Education - To see and understand how Inter Zoo Breeding programs can be used to create and maintain a healthy and viable gene pool where in the wild the animal maybe failing.
Education - Dartmoor Zoological Zoo has a Panther ( in fact its a hybrid ) that was a privately owned animal for many years - due to it being brought up as a Pet Cat it doesn't know how to act in a behavioural sense - It would be useless in the Wild and die very quickly as it doesn't 'act' as it should. It has No place in any breeding program due to having mixed genetics , it is a Chimera - should it be put down for that ? I think that teaches something about Humanizing Wild animals and the problems that can inflict.
Education - The ability to study an subject Animal for Research at very close proximity for those that can't fund or commit to visit the native habitat.
Education - It allows Children to Form their OWN opinions on Animals in captivity and IF they should only be found in the wild.
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I've only been to one zoo in my life when i was six, my gran took me and i asked 1 question
"Nanna why are the animals in jail?"
I had just come back from visiting my mother who at the time was in jail!
We cage people for the benefit for the rest of society, why not animals?
"Nanna why are the animals in jail?"
I had just come back from visiting my mother who at the time was in jail!
We cage people for the benefit for the rest of society, why not animals?
Fair points all of them !
Dude I didn't assume your beliefs or anything like that.
I was looking for some positive (pros) for the zoo....as I couldn't see any, and you got them!
Very good points they are too...
I'm convinced there are pros and cons to zoos! Yay!
Thank you TeeDee.
Learn something every day...
Fair play, anyway time to bump up first post I think
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Just found this on My FB feed.
Another good reason - Yes I'd like to see more in the Natural Environment but there you go.
https://www.facebook.com/wildheartwildlifefoundation/videos/885595664879479/
Another good reason - Yes I'd like to see more in the Natural Environment but there you go.
https://www.facebook.com/wildheartwildlifefoundation/videos/885595664879479/
What are you waffling about? Who was telling you what your opinion should be? Certainly wasn't me!
As for the rest, I'd respectfully suggest you take you own advice because you repeatedly tell me what my opinion is with only a singular post to form your balanced and rational opinion. I was under the impression this was a discussion, airing towards the light-hearted approach... but nah, take a sledge hammer to it TD... pretend to read more into a paragraph than was actually there and speed off into rant mode.
As Leshy points out, you're comparing reservations with zoos... totally different. But then no doubt you'll tell me what my opinion is on both, so there's no need for me to type anything asinine or banal is there?
Whoaaah you guys get wound up
Bod seen something someone posted online that was either meant to incite a response or to inflame opinions and he said "Meh" and went about his day
I don't know why but i think this guy looks shifty, like he got summick to hide
Zoo Operations manager, George Hyde
Bod seen something someone posted online that was either meant to incite a response or to inflame opinions and he said "Meh" and went about his day
I don't know why but i think this guy looks shifty, like he got summick to hide
Zoo Operations manager, George Hyde
Nah, not wound up Bod... just amused by the ranting and double standard.
Anyway.. its not helping to find the missing Lynx is it?
That fella isn't looking shifty... he's just been told that someone's left the tiger enclosure open and they haven't been fed in a couple of days... he's papping his pants!
That's a nasty thing to say about a complete stranger when you really don't know them. They've just had a whole load of grief dropped on them and had a major (and no doubt expensive) zoo exhibit escape within hours of arrival. They can be excused looking a bit drawn and haggard.
A couple of months ago when I was auditing the snakes at the local zoo, one of the the tapirs escaped through a half open gate and ended up dragging me around the place as I tried to stop it. Not easy things to stop, tapirs. Mashed my foot up with its big idiot hooves. It happens quite a lot. All it takes is an animal with the intention of escape, and one seconds worth of miscalculation or slip of attention on behalf of the keeper. Slipping on poo when opening the door is enough.
Not as bad as the time when I turned up at one reptile house and found over 50 newly born puff adders all over the public walkway/footpath. Fun times
Not as bad as the time when I turned up at one reptile house and found over 50 newly born puff adders all over the public walkway/footpath. Fun times
Not only the money that goes into conservation, but also the money that goes into the local economy. That can, and often is, the turning point for local opinion and poaching. That changes the local opinion of of the lions to a resource to be protected rather than a threat to livestock that needs to be eliminated.
There are also commercial "parks" that are nothing more than dressed up zoos. You are indeed arguing semantics in a field where those very semantics are far from being a settled issue.
