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Martyn

Bushcrafter through and through
Aug 7, 2003
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I reckon what they should do is bring out a fix blade licence and lock knife licence! along the lines of you pay so much each year to allow you to use a fix blade and carry one as long as you have a valid reson to and a safe storage place. Kinda like a shotgun licence! If your ever checked, all you have to do is present your licence card and have a reson for carrying it! Ie, work use! If you dont have a licence, you dont have a knife! simple... And all the money each year goes towards fighting knife and gun crime! obviously 3" and under non locking blades would remain legal..

Good idea???... :confused:

Nahhh. What would it achieve - aside from generate revenue for the licensing authority? Would it make the country safer? Nope. There are probably over a billion knives in general circulation in the UK. There are half a dozen lethal knives in every kitchen drawer. Would it stop bad people carrying them as weapons? Nope. They are bad people, they dont care about licences. Would it give bushcrafters carte blanche to carry a knife? Nope. You'd still have to explain your reasons at the time if found with a knife - because some bad person might pretend to be a bushcrafter to get a licence and ...even bushcrafters can be naughty. What it would do, is make everyone think that the law doesnt already allow reasonable use, when in fact it does. It would also make everyone think that the country is so dangerous, that ordinary people cant be trusted with something sharp without a licence, and that would just pander to the irrational fear and scaremongering created by our tabloids, of the kind that seems to have gripped the OP in this thread.

The solution to the problem, is to ignore it, or to laugh at it because it's a non issue. The danger comes when people start taking this nonsense seriously. What next? A permit to carry a sharp stick?

Take heart from the Norwegians, they refuse to let one nutter with a gun ruin their society and curtail their freedoms. Bad things happen. There are not always solutions and that something bad has happened, is not always a reason for change.

It's our system that is the problem. Particularly litigation and health and safety. The way H&S works, is that when something bad happens, you do a root cause analysis, come up with some spurious reason and impliment some equally spurious change of practice. That's what is taught in universities. It doesnt matter what solution you come up with, so long as you come up with something, then your actions are defensible in law. Doing nothing is much harder to justify and leaves you or your organisation (or your government) open to accusations of incompetence. The sad reality, which we are all learning, is that often doing nothing is the right thing to do and that just doing something to avoid liability, leaves us all in a far worse position.

I commend the Norwegians for doing nothing. Their society wasnt broken, it was the nutter with a gun that was broken.
 
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cowboy

Banned
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OK i just got OWNED on something i thoght may have been a good idea ... lol :rolleyes: It would just be nice if you could carry you fix blade on your side without having to worry about the blod taking it off you.. But i guess there is no way around it?!
 

Martyn

Bushcrafter through and through
Aug 7, 2003
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www.britishblades.com
OK i just got OWNED on something i thoght may have been a good idea ... lol :rolleyes: It would just be nice if you could carry you fix blade on your side without having to worry about the blod taking it off you.. But i guess there is no way around it?!

Not my intention, but this suggestion has been discussed to death on my forum. It's a well trodden debate for me and I'm pretty happy I've rationalised it. I just have you at a disadvantage. :)
 

HillBill

Bushcrafter through and through
Oct 1, 2008
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OK i just got OWNED on something i thoght may have been a good idea ... lol :rolleyes: It would just be nice if you could carry you fix blade on your side without having to worry about the blod taking it off you.. But i guess there is no way around it?!

You can already, if you have a genuine need of the knife at the time :). Why would you wish to carry one if you didn't need it?
 

ex-member Raikey

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Sep 4, 2010
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My Grandma killed the newsagent with her knitting needle when her copy of readers digest was late,....
 
"I also Cook "

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Mesquite

It is what it is.
Mar 5, 2008
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~Hemel Hempstead~
It's worse than you think. Over here a husband was recently bludgeoned to death with a frozen leg of lamb. When questioned the murder said she bought it at the grocery store! I was fine until then. Imagine my anxiety now that I've learned that just anybody can walk in and buy MEAT at will! Without even a background check.


Above joke plagiarized and paraphrased from Steve Martin.and

He must have got the idea from an episode of Roald Dahl's Tales of the Unexpected
 
Packaging aimed at youngsters. On display in the high street. I'm only trying to advocate some discretion. Why not just sell via a brochure (like Bahco products in builders merchants). Shaggy Stu, I know what your saying. I just cant see how Bushcraft would survive a blanket ban on selling knives axes/machete's. I'm probably being a bit sensationalist I admit, but iv'e seen first hand what can happen with high street retailers getting greedy and giving no regard to who they are selling to. Genuine enthusiastswill only suffer from such practises..
p.s. Ruffled a few feathers this debate hasn't it??:eek:
 

spandit

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 6, 2011
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I just cant see how Bushcraft would survive a blanket ban on selling knives axes/machete's

Because they'd never ban them. Too many people have genuine need for knives in their work/home (cooks, butchers, carpenters etc.). Besides, I made my own knife from something that wasn't a knife (OK, it was a chisel but I could have used an old leaf spring or something equally innocuous)
 

Martyn

Bushcrafter through and through
Aug 7, 2003
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staffordshire
www.britishblades.com
Packaging aimed at youngsters. On display in the high street. I'm only trying to advocate some discretion. Why not just sell via a brochure (like Bahco products in builders merchants). Shaggy Stu, I know what your saying. I just cant see how Bushcraft would survive a blanket ban on selling knives axes/machete's. I'm probably being a bit sensationalist I admit, but iv'e seen first hand what can happen with high street retailers getting greedy and giving no regard to who they are selling to. Genuine enthusiastswill only suffer from such practises..
p.s. Ruffled a few feathers this debate hasn't it??:eek:
Why on earth would they have a blanket ban on knives, axes & machetes? All a bit "news of the world" isn't it?
 

British Red

M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)
Dec 30, 2005
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Could be worse...could be a "Hello Kitty" assault rifle. Now they would never.......

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santaman2000

M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)
Jan 15, 2011
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Because they'd never ban them. Too many people have genuine need for knives in their work/home (cooks, butchers, carpenters etc.). Besides, I made my own knife from something that wasn't a knife (OK, it was a chisel but I could have used an old leaf spring or something equally innocuous)

My inmates used to use toilet paper to make a shank.
 

shaggystu

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Nov 10, 2003
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My inmates used to use toilet paper to make a shank.

an old student of mine once demonstrated to the class how you go about making a variety of different weapons from a 2litre plastic bottle, it's amazing what you can come up with when you've got the time on your hands

stuart
 

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