Martyn I think you are not totally right. The police in Cumbrian shootings and the paramedics too were told to keep away not through impotence but health and safety rules. The reason they did not go in to help the injured sooner was because thee gunman was potentially still in the area and their rules prevent them going directly into harms way. Or at least that is what I read in the local news and heard on local radio at the time and after it.
What was interesting after the Cumbrian gunman incident was an interview on local radio with a spokesman from BASC. He was arguing for tighter controls and inspection of legally held guns. He even said that he had told some people he'd visited who had stored guns leant against the kitchen cabinet that if he saw the gun kept like that when he next came he'd report them to the authorities. He said the problem was not people having guns but no means to report people acting strangely or who kept guns stored incorrectly. The guy was kind of advocating making it easier to get guns taken off someone. kind of different to previous arguments from BASC AFAIK. Kind of reducing their potential members arguing for thing like that.
Anyway, if you know anyone from the more dodgier estates of any town or city in the country I can guarantee that either they or someone they know will be able to get an illegal gun for you. It really is easy these days. I had a discussion on this with guys at work and there were a few people who said they could get hold of a gun in about 30 minutes and for something like £75 or less. The way they told me that was like nothing was wrong or unusual about that, such that I kind of believed them. Talk about renta-gun.
BTW the Cumbrian shootings was all about a guy who was unstable and had been so for a period of time such that you'd expect the authorities would have known about a gun holder being unstable. That was why the argument from the BASC guy was that we need a means of reporting people going through a crisis in some way and is unstable or shouldnt have gun access. People knew he was not right apparently. It totally freaked some friend I have who should have been in that area but had been called away at the time he was there. If not they;d have been right where he was, when he was there. A lot of people in that area know someone who was shot or who was right near where he was going around when he was shooting people. Never good when someone with guns goes off track like that. It is an unusual situation in thsi country that someone goes mental with a gun. Someone did that when I was at uni. He was in the gun club and locked people in the gun cabinet (walk in) and went off with several guns and rounds. he was a final year graduate who was under so much pressure and had been struggling. He snapped but due to gun access he became dangerous resulting in police with guns chasing him around the city. They are unusual events though.
What was interesting after the Cumbrian gunman incident was an interview on local radio with a spokesman from BASC. He was arguing for tighter controls and inspection of legally held guns. He even said that he had told some people he'd visited who had stored guns leant against the kitchen cabinet that if he saw the gun kept like that when he next came he'd report them to the authorities. He said the problem was not people having guns but no means to report people acting strangely or who kept guns stored incorrectly. The guy was kind of advocating making it easier to get guns taken off someone. kind of different to previous arguments from BASC AFAIK. Kind of reducing their potential members arguing for thing like that.
Anyway, if you know anyone from the more dodgier estates of any town or city in the country I can guarantee that either they or someone they know will be able to get an illegal gun for you. It really is easy these days. I had a discussion on this with guys at work and there were a few people who said they could get hold of a gun in about 30 minutes and for something like £75 or less. The way they told me that was like nothing was wrong or unusual about that, such that I kind of believed them. Talk about renta-gun.
BTW the Cumbrian shootings was all about a guy who was unstable and had been so for a period of time such that you'd expect the authorities would have known about a gun holder being unstable. That was why the argument from the BASC guy was that we need a means of reporting people going through a crisis in some way and is unstable or shouldnt have gun access. People knew he was not right apparently. It totally freaked some friend I have who should have been in that area but had been called away at the time he was there. If not they;d have been right where he was, when he was there. A lot of people in that area know someone who was shot or who was right near where he was going around when he was shooting people. Never good when someone with guns goes off track like that. It is an unusual situation in thsi country that someone goes mental with a gun. Someone did that when I was at uni. He was in the gun club and locked people in the gun cabinet (walk in) and went off with several guns and rounds. he was a final year graduate who was under so much pressure and had been struggling. He snapped but due to gun access he became dangerous resulting in police with guns chasing him around the city. They are unusual events though.
). Stories about magazine size on their guns. One had what I took as a pump action shotgun with a magazine extension into double figures!!
