The women are revolting

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santaman2000

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I noticed this earlier; and I thought of it this way....no society survives without women. We need men too, but how can he claim 'survive' without women ?...... Define survival :rolleyes:

M

Apples and oranges Mary. One man can indeed "survive" without women; maybe not happily, but survive (at least nearly as long as he would have survived with women) You're correct though that "society" cannot survive without the ability to reproduce.
 

Toddy

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Ah, see now, that's it's base level. We're more than that though; we know we can live solitary, or in all male or all female, but society as a whole, how we get along with each other in everything from homelife to work, to shopping, to education, travel, politics (there's one of the touch points :eek: ) to law and rights and responsibilities, needs to see people as people.
It's not just men who have changed as our society has changed, women have too, and I don't think that the original declaration, that men are lessened by that change, holds.
Humanity thrives because it's adaptable.
Modern life is just another adaptation :)

M
 

feralpig

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I haven't got a telly. I haven't watched a telly in over 10 years. I've wouldn't know who this Bear bloke is if he hit me with a tent pole. I don't read things on the internet about telly, and even I knew of this story, just from reading the headlines in the internet based main stream media.
Has it occurred to anyone that the producers might just have got a bunch of media connected feminists to push this story into the media, to get a whole bunch of free publicity for the show?
 

Fraxinus

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By default any thing with BG in I am not gonna bother to watch nor will I buy from any company that uses his name on their products.
As for it being sexist... I have no idea.
I do know however that if I was stuck on an island, tropical or otherwise, female points of view would be most welcome. I know several that would make life easier due to their knowledge and insight.

Definition of survival:- staying alive to enjoy ones progeny and their children or long enough to be repatriated.

Rob.
 

boatman

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There is a serious point to the more obvious signs of masculinity being denigrated. The term. for example, "medallion man" is one of abuse but has something similar ever been levelled at a women in a low cut dress with a necklace, other terms of feminine abuse maybe but not ones that decry her femininity. I have every reason to be pleased with gender equality but I do wonder if women do want useless wimps whose reaction to a difficult situation is to cry or give up. Of course a man may cry but he should also act. Put it simply but graphically, does a woman want a man that will die for her or one that will run away? Of course a man will also want a woman that will stay by his side come what may.
 
I haven't got a telly. I haven't watched a telly in over 10 years. I've wouldn't know who this Bear bloke is if he hit me with a tent pole. I don't read things on the internet about telly, and even I knew of this story, just from reading the headlines in the internet based main stream media.
Has it occurred to anyone that the producers might just have got a bunch of media connected feminists to push this story into the media, to get a whole bunch of free publicity for the show?

I wouldn't call Lisa Fenton a media connected feminist.

my view point of the programme is as leon said. To assess men's capabilities you need to keep it an all male environment adding females is self defeating.

I hold doors offer seats etc as thats how I was raised. And my son will as well because thats how he is being raised.
 

Toddy

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I tell you though....there's no way on this green earth that I would ever end up in an all female group by choice :)

Life needs balance :D

M
 

ex-member BareThrills

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Dec 5, 2011
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Modern man is definitely less practical than he was back in the day. Fortunately though god gave us youtube when we need skills. For everything else there is mastercard.

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I think the Producers know well enough that ratings could be got adding in a female element its used in lots of these things so removing that is actually refreshing

Why does doing something that does not include a female make it sexist ie from a nasty evil point of view


are the Olympics Sexist they segregate most sports by Sex lets just have the 100m for humans would cut down the waste of time by half at least :rolleyes: and get it over in 1 week

the "Boy Scouts" are now the "Scouts" as girls can join after campaigns by girls some using the call of sexist discrimination (BG is the Chief Scout)

Girl Guides are still the Girl Guides no boys allowed

Women's Institute is still the Women's institute No men allowed

I dont consider either Sexist in excluding the male sex



SO women's are allowed to gather in single sex groups but men need watching and supervising by women ................... Ok you got me there :lmao:


BG covers the

Caucasian, Christian, Male, fit n healthy, Knowledgeable outdoors type

hopefully the rest will be be even blend of race, colour, Religion, fitness, disability, age, indoor nerd etc
 

Toddy

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Women's Institute ? I'll raise you the Women's Guild and the Rural :D

The men have the Men's Fellowship though, and try getting into the royal and ancient golf club on an even footing.

It's just a tv programme.

M
 

Macaroon

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Jan 5, 2013
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I tell you though....there's no way on this green earth that I would ever end up in an all female group by choice :)

Life needs balance :D

M

That's it in a nutshell........I wouldn't want to ever end up in any group of just one gender
 

Jared

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Sep 8, 2005
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Just watched another episode of Naked & Afraid. The premise of the show is that a man and a woman both naked have to survive with two items for 21 days in some wilderness environment. (Amazon, Belize etc)

The recurring theme of the series seems to be the women survive better.

It would be interesting to find out why that is. So would be more interesting if they intended to have 3 different groups, all male, all female, and mixed, as a proper study.
 

Parbajtor

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Maybe the show is racist as well, after all it contains no kalahari bushpersons, no headhunters from borneo, no amazonian forest dwellers or any other "indigenous people" for whom survival is a way of life rather than a hobby. You can also guarantee the men will be selected for having no bushcraft and likely no practical skills of any kind.
The tone of the show is likely to be in keeping with "loose women" and other examples of "non-sexism" after all, it's a chance to laugh, yet again, at just how ineffectual "western man" can show himself to be.
 

CLEM

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jul 10, 2004
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Given the programme is apparently intended to explore whether men are still practical, I wonder what their issue is? That its a show about men? I trust they also believe that Woman's Hour is equally sexist and the Women's Institute should be closed down? Or is it just a double standard?

I won't watch it because of the actor involved, but I see nothing inherently wrong with programmes about masculine issues.
It's a TOTAL and UTTER NON issue as far I am concerned. No matter what the professionally offended types will always try their best to get their panties in a bind. Mr. Red summed it perfectly above for me!
 

GGTBod

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My only thought on this show is where is BG's hotel located
 

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