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Paul_B

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 14, 2008
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We also have the distinct disadvantage in that it had only been relatively recently that kids in primary schools started to learn foreign languages from early on. When other countries start at 4 or 5 with languages and we start at 10 or even 11 then no wonder we lose out. I'd like to see pre-school language classes personally and would like to have it back dated to when I was at that age too.

I do think that until you are able to think in a foreign language you really haven't learnt it yet. I have never done that. My sister spent two years in Italy and came back talking to us in Italian. It was always funny to hear her start in Italian, realise that and continue in English only to revert back to Italian again. She found it hard when she came back to think and speak only in English again. Although she was working in a really chavvy area of Italy so the language was not good Italian. She spoke with letters at the end of words dropped as was the local dialect. Made it easier to learn as you didn't need to learn the tenses so much but marked you as low class but that was what they all spoke like where she was.

Anyway English is the language of international transport. What I mean is ships and planes all operate with English as the language used to communicate. Also it is the language of the second largest film and visual media industry (Hollywood which is behind Bollywood I think with HK coming in second). Most places have English language films showing with subtitles and it is more widely distributed so it is easier to become exposed to English as a foreign language. It takes specialist cinemas to see French or Italian or Spanish language films so less exposure. I reckon in USA Spanish is more widely spoken than over here too.
 

Biker

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Reading the first paragragh of this thread really did make me sit back and ponder. Spent 2 nights just laying in bed before drifting off to sleep thinking aout what I'd like to do.

Drawing for me is OK, at least when it comes to pin-up cartoons, and I can get by using a photograph for reference in proper portaits. Ask me to do a caricature and I'm uslesss, ask me to draw a building and I'm not that much better. So the area I happy with is a small fraction of the drawing spectrum. That's my comfort zone and I stay within that area. I'm crap at watercolours, charcoal, pastals, oil painting. I can get by with acrylics though. I used to paint fantasy paintings on the back of biker's leather jackets back in the 90's. Thought I wasn't half bad.

What I'm not good at is welding. I once welded two lumps of metal to my bench vice. the joint I was welding snapped apart after a heafty twist, but where I'd welded it to the vice I needed a hammer and bolster to break it apart and then grind off the snots afterwards.

Can't sing or play a muscial instrument, simply don't have the ear and I'm in awe of those who can do both. I love listening to music and have watched a drummer playing his kit with my jaw hanging slack wishing I could do just that.

Can't work a canoe. I had a go in the sea 4 times in a row and capsized within 15 seconds of getting into the surf. Last time i buried my head in the sea bed and panicked and had to be rescued. Haven't tried since.

Wish I was a better swimmer. Think paddle steamer in reverse gear and that's how I glide through the water. I naturally sink too. My natural buoyancy is reached with my head 4 inches below the water's surface.

I've read with interest the foriegn langauge comments. I came to france with just "hello" "thank you" and "please." I haven't had any formal lessons but I have listened to Michel Thomas' langauge CDs (at least the first two) and they're amazing. I cannot reccommend those highly enough as a teaching aid! Want to learn? Get them from your local library. I'm not sure what courses he does but I have the French and Spanish CDs. I'm not good in french but I can get by and I enjoy trying. Not being afraid to make an ar$e of myself helps.

All the above I would like to do better. I'd also like to be able to walk into the woods and know that I can eat the bark of that tree, that that grass is good for rubbing on a wound and will clean it, that that leaf won't make me end up having a case of baboon bum if I used it as toilet paper. I get crossed-eyed when I look at anything green, naming them and knowing their properties is just white man's magic to me.

I suppose we all have our self imposed limitations, perhaps the fear or time invested in learning a skill puts us off from trying. But one phrase has always given me comfort in anything I have tried to do, it's this:

"That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the nature of thing has changed, but our ability to do it has increased."

In short "Practice makes perfect."

or even shorter: "Go for it!"
 
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craig

Tenderfoot
To learn to carve well. So I'll keep practising. Also I'm am trying to learn Norwegian(CD/Books) in the vain hope that in 2013 when I'm of to the Norwegian Scouts Jamboree that I could be understood. The only problem in learning a language in this country is the lack of folk to practice upon. As said earlier English is the main second language of many other countries they have lots of exposure to English than we have other languages. If there is any one on here now Norwegian some tips would go down a treat :).
Craig.
 

Tengu

Full Member
Jan 10, 2006
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Do maths really well.

Its so important in life...yet I cannot understand more than the basics.

I can just about do Quadratics.

Maths is a language too
 

Dave

Hill Dweller
Sep 17, 2003
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It's an issue in the modern world isnt it? So many options these days. Its difficult to give any one the attention it deserves.
Discipline seems to be the sacrifice of choice
 

Abbe Osram

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Reading the first paragragh of this thread really did make me sit back and ponder. Spent 2 nights just laying in bed before drifting off to sleep thinking aout what I'd like to do.

Drawing for me is OK, at least when it comes to pin-up cartoons, and I can get by using a photograph for reference in proper portaits. Ask me to do a caricature and I'm uslesss, ask me to draw a building and I'm not that much better. So the area I happy with is a small fraction of the drawing spectrum. That's my comfort zone and I stay within that area. I'm crap at watercolours, charcoal, pastals, oil painting. I can get by with acrylics though. I used to paint fantasy paintings on the back of biker's leather jackets back in the 90's. Thought I wasn't half bad.

What I'm not good at is welding. I once welded two lumps of metal to my bench vice. the joint I was welding snapped apart after a heafty twist, but where I'd welded it to the vice I needed a hammer and bolster to break it apart and then grind off the snots afterwards.

Can't sing or play a muscial instrument, simply don't have the ear and I'm in awe of those who can do both. I love listening to music and have watched a drummer playing his kit with my jaw hanging slack wishing I could do just that.

Can't work a canoe. I had a go in the sea 4 times in a row and capsized within 15 seconds of getting into the surf. Last time i buried my head in the sea bed and panicked and had to be rescued. Haven't tried since.

Wish I was a better swimmer. Think paddle steamer in reverse gear and that's how I glide through the water. I naturally sink too. My natural buoyancy is reached with my head 4 inches below the water's surface.

I've read with interest the foriegn langauge comments. I came to france with just "hello" "thank you" and "please." I haven't had any formal lessons but I have listened to Michel Thomas' langauge CDs (at least the first two) and they're amazing. I cannot reccommend those highly enough as a teaching aid! Want to learn? Get them from your local library. I'm not sure what courses he does but I have the French and Spanish CDs. I'm not good in french but I can get by and I enjoy trying. Not being afraid to make an ar$e of myself helps.

All the above I would like to do better. I'd also like to be able to walk into the woods and know that I can eat the bark of that tree, that that grass is good for rubbing on a wound and will clean it, that that leaf won't make me end up having a case of baboon bum if I used it as toilet paper. I get crossed-eyed when I look at anything green, naming them and knowing their properties is just white man's magic to me.

I suppose we all have our self imposed limitations, perhaps the fear or time invested in learning a skill puts us off from trying. But one phrase has always given me comfort in anything I have tried to do, it's this:

"That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the nature of thing has changed, but our ability to do it has increased."

In short "Practice makes perfect."

or even shorter: "Go for it!"

Hi Biker, that was some good talking! It remind me a lot of a wonderful speach at TED about fear called: smash fear learn anything
check it out guys, its a great one: [video]http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/tim_ferriss_smash_fear_learn_a nything.html[/video]
cheers
Abbe
 

Biker

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
What kind of welding Aaron? If it's electric of any sort we could do a bit next time if you like. I'm not much good with gas.

Thanks for the offer ged. I finally just gave up and accepted it's beyond me and I sold the MIG welder on at a bootfair for £25 last year. I've since had a play on a neighbours DC welder and that was swweeet. BUt I left him to do the welds properly.

Hi Biker, that was some good talking! It remind me a lot of a wonderful speach at TED about fear called: smash fear learn anything
check it out guys, its a great one: [video]http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/tim_ferriss_smash_fear_learn_a nything.html[/video]
cheers
Abbe

Thanks Abbe, glad I wasn't sounding like a fountain of BS but had some pearls of wisdom in there. I'll check out that article now.
 

John Fenna

Lifetime Member & Maker
Oct 7, 2006
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I would love to learn a musical instrement of any kind and to type worth a dam!
Unfortunately I seem to have no lefthand/righthand coordination (cant juggle either except with chiffon scarves!)
I speak French and English, can get by in a couple of others if I have been imersed in the language for a while (Africaans is pretty easy :) ) I can sew a bit and make "Rustic" but usable baskets, food ID is coming on but my metal working and use of tools more sophisticated than a hammer is p!ss poor.
So I would love to learn how to do metal magic, type, make music, draw and paint, save the world from itself and be a better person..........


Not too much to ask is it?
 

The Big Lebowski

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Aug 11, 2010
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I would like to be able to carve a spoon. Oooo' that's nice, instead of, Ummm' thats different.

Joking aside...

An instrument has been a long wish, but like others I lack dedication. maybe oneday :)

al.
 

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