The Island With Bear Grylls

[FGYT]

On another note

Survive that is on one of the Discovery Channels tonight at 10pm

was aired before Christmas as "Dude your Screwed" in the USA

John Hudson who i designed the Jungle parang for and is the UK forces lead instructor for all things SERE etc is a participant

its shot and intended as a bit of fun but you may pick up the odd tip



they are off shooting series 2 at the moment

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

good clean family fun??????? you mean apart from the excessive swearing, moaning and incompetence? we'll have to disagree on this one.....

as i said...'anything=disown'

and as for chief scout...omg...dont start me....he shouldve tried out for james bond instead...the guys a farce and so's his career....i've seen women on street corners who do less of a certain something than he does....

if i ever have the misfortune of meeting his cheesey grin and he holds out his hand for a shake....well....

ok...back to work...morally correct work...happy to be in the camps of Sir Mears and Sir Caine....

s

ps....as i just said to FGYT....:

do you know what, i'm a little disappointed in myself for that rant....i've always managed to stay away from the ray/bear silliness....but that programme did me in....the straw that broke....

i apologise...it won't happen again lol

Sonni you must have missed him last year at the bushcraft show. He was there honest............

 

[Angst]

lolololol! never mind...hopefully i'll get the chance to NOT shake his hand again this year....it'll be busy shaking Sir Loftys again anyway...

s

 

[MikeLA]

Yeah but at school I don't get to cringe. Youngest is 8.


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I am with you on that whats said at school does not have to said or heard at home. After all its own childrens respect and how we bring them up, we can control in the home.

 

[Countryman]

I have set Survive That! To record. Cheers for that.

I don't use language like that in front of my kids and if they bought it home......well they know better.


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[Blaidd]

I learnt at a young age that wandering out to the garage would increase my vocabulary but I also learnt what words I shouldn't repeat in mixed company. Mind you, my Dad never used the extreme words, just basic ones like s*d and b***er, usually when the spanner slipped and he caught his knuckles on a piece of engine. As an adult I rarely swear but sometimes a pithy epithet is simply the most effective response.

 

[david1]

I think its just a shame, but I suppose the content is limited to what the stand in camera men shoot. I recon the gill net in the sea on episode 1 ,is a retake because day1 recording was crap... so they got told to do it again. lets face it there not not there alone, can you imagine the **** storm if they got back to the uk without enough good footage to make the show make a profit

 

[Blaidd]

Good point. I spoke to a participant of "come dine with me" a couple of years ago. They told me that each was given a persona to exaggerate, if you said something funny, you usually had to do retakes to get the right camera angles, etc. The meal usually finished around 4am. I can't see any programs in this vein being much different.

 

[21st century pict]

A well, never mind, the public gets what the public wants as they say ,if it stinks like s**t then it probably is .
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The Island with Bear Grylls in new fakery row as C4 show features 'pond' set up by producers and survival specialists
Daily Mail - 5 hours ago,

The Island fake: Bear Grylls show accused of fakery AGAIN after ...
www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv.../island-fake-bear-grylls-show-3548495‎Cached
13 hours ago ... Channel was accused of fakery last night after it emerged producers set up a
water supply and let loose two crocodiles on survival show The ...

Grylls has drawn criticism for his new show ‘The Island’, as it’s been revealed that four of the ‘ordinary men’ marooned on the island were actually trained professionals - and two of them have even worked with Grylls before.

Bear Grylls, the TV adventurer and survivalist, is facing questions about whether he has misled viewers of his new TV show, The Island with Bear Grylls, on Britain’s Channel 4.

The show says that it has marooned ‘13 ordinary British men’ on a desert island, to fend (and film) for themselves. But I can report that of those 13, four are paid members of the show’s production crew. And at least two of those four have worked with Grylls himself on previous TV projects.


Did it that really come as any surprise never..

 

[Bluffer]

I'm not bothered to be honest, they're still ordinary blokes trying to fend for themselves and lets face it nobody was going to be allowed to die of the dehydration.

'Survive That' is equally as contrived, it cannot be avoided.

If anyone wants to see gladiators fight to their death, you've missed it fellas ...

 

[tom.moran]

when will people realise that tv is and always will be tv, the trained professionals are trained professional cameramen not trained professional survival instructors

 

[Corso]

and we are shocked?

 

[VANDEEN]

The Island with Bear Grylls in new fakery row as C4 show features 'pond' set up by producers and survival specialists
Daily Mail - 5 hours ago,

The show says that it has marooned ‘13 ordinary British men’ on a desert island, to fend (and film) for themselves. But I can report that of those 13, four are paid members of the show’s production crew. And at least two of those four have worked with Grylls himself on previous TV projects.


Did it that really come as any surprise never..

I researched it on the chanel 4 website myself after watching the first episode & seeing the nice ertical sides of that "pond", they were upfront about the "rubber liner" water supply in their "making of" video.

Re the "camea crew" my interpretation of them, from how Bear introduced the series, was that there were 13 ordinary men and some of them were trained to use the cameras, I therefore took it that they were just some of the "13 ordinary recruited guys" & they had been trained to use the cameras just for this show. However having seen the credits & recognised a couple of names I dug a little deeper & found out the truth about them & the sound man & their history / bio's.

I did feel I had been mislead, but that is because of how I interpreted what he said.

I always thought/knew ther'd be some sort of safety network ie a couple of "plants" in the team in case things got out of hand anyway.


At the end of the day it's car crash voyeur TV for the masses with a bit of the bushy stuff that interest us thrown in, it's just entertainment!


As for not criticising them as they have no "survival skills knowledge", if I put any of you in a 33kV substation I expect you'd know not to touch stuff, if you broke down in the middle of the M1 I'd expect you to get to safety as safely as you could. Its basic personal safety actions like the running into the sea lark, not looking up & around when traveling through trees, punching the sand.....etc etc that I have a problem comprehending.

I won't crticise their lack of skills as that is exactly WHY they were chosen, but the lack of common sense displayed by some individuals never ceases to amaze me, just as in real life I guess!


To paraphrase the young lad from th "Sixth Sense" film, I see Stupid People, everywhere.

 

[Blaidd]

Channel 4 told everyone that some of the people were crew both verbally on the programme and in print on their website, so yet again an "exposé" by a tabloid turns out to be manufactured. Its ironic that tabloids who have no interest in the "truth" can be used to suggest/prove someone is lying.

 

[Countryman]

I'm not bothered to be honest, they're still ordinary blokes trying to fend for themselves and lets face it nobody was going to be allowed to die of the dehydration.

'Survive That' is equally as contrived, it cannot be avoided.

If anyone wants to see gladiators fight to their death, you've missed it fellas ...

+1 Absolutely.

I can't get out and be there every week and it beats "Celebrity Home Makeover Presenters Dancing on Ice or Diving" or fricking brain dead soaps or whatever other mind control TV happens to be on.


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[Countryman]

Just watched Survive That! And to be honest found it less believable. Apart from the gear he got through a search the survivor went from soaked wet and hyperthermic to bone dry and sorted with only the planks from his Viking shield for a fire. I've dried clothes by a fire. Takes a whole lot longer than that.


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[TeeDee]

Anyone know the background history of the Film/Camera Crew and the Sound recordist?


###Ok , belay that , I've now found the profiles on the website.

 

[21st century pict]

Looks like the young lad Ryan has pulled through nicely, good on him, can't blame him for being a bit home sick, love his sense of humour, just hope he enjoys the rest of his adventure on Gibraleon Island ?. thanks to Matt who sounds like a good egg and did a Sterling job of making Ryan feel welcome back to the group, “Bravo Matt”...

So much for the Cameramen taking a backseat, Kiff and Rupert spent half the show in front of the camera, I think perhaps Rupert has secret orders to try and liven things up a bit, perhaps drive a wedge in the cracks here and there, time will tell.

I’m quite looking forward to part 4 now, very entertaining Bear.

 

[The_Taffinch]

Looks like the young lad Ryan has pulled through nicely, good on him.

Yes, fair do's for the group forbearance....I'd have cooked and eaten him by now.

 

[redneck]

It's the copper that gets on my goat, the only thing he's done so far is use his gob to lecture and pontificate and even a lot of what he says is hypocritical!