Tactical?
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Yes, of course.
Most of the stuff we make is highly overpriced factory new rubbish.
Products that are stamped with "Made in Germany" generally can't be recommended.
I really ask myself why everybody worldwide who can afford it tries to buy it.
They obviously all are stupid idiots.
Most of the stuff we make is highly overpriced factory new rubbish.
Products that are stamped with "Made in Germany" generally can't be recommended.
I really ask myself why everybody worldwide who can afford it tries to buy it.
They obviously all are stupid idiots.
Hard to say anyone is wrong in this thread... I think in the consumer market there is so much stuff that has had keywords thrown in front of them for additional clicks...
Some of the stuff is useful, some of the stuff is genuine, some of the stuff is ridiculous and some is just pure rubbish.
When I was searching for a pack loads of "tactical" stuff came up and plenty of it rated poorly, but it held that military SF/police kind of vibe around it... It's the sort of thing that does "look" cooler than a bright orange bag from go-outdoors or other shop.. also has the added benefit of being more discreet.
But as the owner of a Dutch Saracen now, I find myself feeling a little self conscious hoiking it out in a carpark heading off for a big walk/camp as I don't want to appear like I'm walting - typically why I might carry some camera gear and I've even got my doggos bright red collapsible bowl clipped to the molle straps. I also avoid wearing any "camo" clothing when using it.
Some of the stuff is useful, some of the stuff is genuine, some of the stuff is ridiculous and some is just pure rubbish.
When I was searching for a pack loads of "tactical" stuff came up and plenty of it rated poorly, but it held that military SF/police kind of vibe around it... It's the sort of thing that does "look" cooler than a bright orange bag from go-outdoors or other shop.. also has the added benefit of being more discreet.
But as the owner of a Dutch Saracen now, I find myself feeling a little self conscious hoiking it out in a carpark heading off for a big walk/camp as I don't want to appear like I'm walting - typically why I might carry some camera gear and I've even got my doggos bright red collapsible bowl clipped to the molle straps. I also avoid wearing any "camo" clothing when using it.
I don't think it matters what you wear these days although i don't mind half camo, I wouldn't feel comfortable in going full matching camo and not on the street. most of it is cheap functional clothing so.........
I mean if you support a football team and wear a numbnut 4?? Shirt are you a walting football twit?
Iv'e seen people wearing sons of anarchy cuts and shirts and it makes me cringe, but who am I to judge. There is always going to be holier than thou. let em get on with it.
What would be interesting is foreseeing the next big thing?. SF (SAS SBS and whatnot) has been done to death, coyote brown, Adaptive green, MOLLE and tactical etc,
whats next?
I mean if you support a football team and wear a numbnut 4?? Shirt are you a walting football twit?
Iv'e seen people wearing sons of anarchy cuts and shirts and it makes me cringe, but who am I to judge. There is always going to be holier than thou. let em get on with it.
What would be interesting is foreseeing the next big thing?. SF (SAS SBS and whatnot) has been done to death, coyote brown, Adaptive green, MOLLE and tactical etc,
whats next?
I certainly wouldn't see camo trousers or normal trousers and a camo jacket as walting.... But if you went the full double denim look... Again, personally I guess I wouldn't see it as walting, but it's a bit more "hmmmm" for me to wear. Your football analogy is fair (not that I know anything about the sport), but I guess the equivalent would be shirt and shorts.. that said, I did have a mate turn up to pre season rugby training wearing a full Stade Francais rugby kit - socks and all... For those that don't know, Stades kit is like "hot pink"...
One summer I was a bit wrong dressed, I wore camo trousers and a combat shirt (it´s a comfy outfit to wander around woods in).
We went to stay for three days on an island outside Tallinn, Estonia. It´s a big (10km long and 5km wide) island.
Just a few inhabitants and a couple of holiday camps. Entire island is covered with woods and there are old forts and gun positions from WWI and WWII.
Well the second day on the island they started a military excercise we had no idea was coming. So there we wandered around the island among soldiers. Saw them here and there. Me dressed in camo and my girlfriend more civilian clothing.
The island:
We went to stay for three days on an island outside Tallinn, Estonia. It´s a big (10km long and 5km wide) island.
Just a few inhabitants and a couple of holiday camps. Entire island is covered with woods and there are old forts and gun positions from WWI and WWII.
Well the second day on the island they started a military excercise we had no idea was coming. So there we wandered around the island among soldiers. Saw them here and there. Me dressed in camo and my girlfriend more civilian clothing.
The island:
I've worn full camo for hunting in the past. Not a fashion statement if there's no one around to see it! I really can't see a problem with wearing camo and if people want to be judgemental then that's on them. I don't regard it as "tactical" it's just practical if you don't want to be seen by bunnies. Same as my army surplus rucksack is just a well made bag that cost me about the same as a pub lunch. I also carry 2 ammo tins full of tools in my work van because they were cheap and functional.
On the other hand I don't want small items in black/ODG/Realtree because if I drop them in the woods there's a good chance I'll never see them again.
On the other hand I don't want small items in black/ODG/Realtree because if I drop them in the woods there's a good chance I'll never see them again.
We can buy all of the materials needed to build good ghillie suit camo for hunting here.
I have different suits for different seasons. Must admit, they are of considerable help plus being warm and comfortable. Canada geese can be so suspicious some days and so abysmally stupid on others.
Of course, coming back into the village, it's only polite to peel off the camo before visiting any business on the way back to the house.
I notice that most snowmobilers and snow bikers peel off their outer things like the Pieps and the Avalungs, probably just to be more comfortable. I have never seen anybody wear any of that stuff beyond the liquor store and into the pub for supper. You just don't.
I have different suits for different seasons. Must admit, they are of considerable help plus being warm and comfortable. Canada geese can be so suspicious some days and so abysmally stupid on others.
Of course, coming back into the village, it's only polite to peel off the camo before visiting any business on the way back to the house.
I notice that most snowmobilers and snow bikers peel off their outer things like the Pieps and the Avalungs, probably just to be more comfortable. I have never seen anybody wear any of that stuff beyond the liquor store and into the pub for supper. You just don't.
I’m not a fan of trying to put or shame people for being walts or walting because they want to wear a bit of army kit.
Wearing patches or medals you didn’t earn, that’s a different thing.
I would imagine many people in the armed forces would consider a lot of bushcraft people walts, says more about their character to me.
Wearing patches or medals you didn’t earn, that’s a different thing.
I would imagine many people in the armed forces would consider a lot of bushcraft people walts, says more about their character to me.
There's a difference between those who want to pretend they're in the military and those who wear army surplus gear because it's cheap, rugged and comfortable. I think we're straying from the original post, though
Strayed a fair amount indeed.
I took the OP as a way of asking what makes ( or rather what does the advertising company think it is selling to people ) when it use the term ' Tactical '
IE Tactical Flashlight as opposed to just Flashlight.
The comparison with the "pro" label is a good one. I've got tools labelled as professional which have held up to being used professionally and therefore deserve the label. Yet other stuff is cheap junk that falls apart in no time. So while it's supposed to imply a certain level of functionality and robustness, there's no industry standard for labelling something "pro" so it actually means nothing.
Arguably the same could be said of "tactical."
Arguably the same could be said of "tactical."
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