Whenever I have to fill in a survey or similar, I always tick 'other white' then when asked for details say English. Most people don't get it and think that I'm just being awkward or racist. The irony is that I've worked with many people from other races, both in their countries and mine, and all of them are proud of their heritage (even the septics with only a couple of hundred years behind them! (the chubby white ones that is!)) and those that I have worked with would have been happy to stand next to anyone who is willing to speak up for their own people and way of life. Glyn.