Refused a tattoo
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Reading the thread not much from what people are saying and I can see.
However the tattoo artist the OP went to obviously thought there was
There isn't. The trouble is that a couple of far-right English nationalist groups have 'adopted' it as their symbol. So now some people associate the design with those groups, rather than its historical origins.
Looks more a like a black chappie being humped by a couple of dogs to me .......& if symbolically the dogs represent the white man, then that could be interpreted as anglo saxon supremacy.
Okay, having researched a lot on Celto-Germanic Reconstructionist Polytheism over the years and been a long time member of forums such as Asatrulore, it must be said that there are some seriously negative connotations to what is called Heathenism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytheistic_reconstructionism
This is what the people of Asatrulore subscribe to, and they are known as Heathens. Reconstructionism takes a scholarly view, as opposed to some of the syncretic faiths of today, such as Wicca. On the other hand there is a rising movement of "Odinists". These are the racists, the type of people who butcher Iron Age beliefs. I'm sure you've all seen the skinheads with their Mjolnirs and Swatzikas. That has NOTHING to do with true Reconstructionist Polytheism.
Honestly, I could go on for hours about this but I shan't. All that really needs to be said is that there are a lot of misconceptions about this. Your tattoo artist assumed you to be one of these racists.
Edit: I'm not a Polytheist, but I have researched the subject for a long time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytheistic_reconstructionism
This is what the people of Asatrulore subscribe to, and they are known as Heathens. Reconstructionism takes a scholarly view, as opposed to some of the syncretic faiths of today, such as Wicca. On the other hand there is a rising movement of "Odinists". These are the racists, the type of people who butcher Iron Age beliefs. I'm sure you've all seen the skinheads with their Mjolnirs and Swatzikas. That has NOTHING to do with true Reconstructionist Polytheism.
Honestly, I could go on for hours about this but I shan't. All that really needs to be said is that there are a lot of misconceptions about this. Your tattoo artist assumed you to be one of these racists.
Edit: I'm not a Polytheist, but I have researched the subject for a long time.
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It's just sad that symbols get hijacked, but I'd count the tattooist on the side of good if he's anti-supremacist, if a bit closed minded if he wouldn't listen to the reason for the tattoo.
I know I've friends in Ireland who are very angry over some of the symbols seized on by fascists over there, and fighting hard to prevent them 'owning' them.
I once had a couple of guys giving me a bit of grief in the US over a german football tshirt I had on - it was a St Pauli shirt with the tottenkopf (skul and crossbones) - they though it was a fascist symbol (as in the SS badge), but we were OK when I explained the anti-fascist stance of the club & origins of their use of the symbol. I suppose it's always worth considering what your symbol might say to others.
I know I've friends in Ireland who are very angry over some of the symbols seized on by fascists over there, and fighting hard to prevent them 'owning' them.
I once had a couple of guys giving me a bit of grief in the US over a german football tshirt I had on - it was a St Pauli shirt with the tottenkopf (skul and crossbones) - they though it was a fascist symbol (as in the SS badge), but we were OK when I explained the anti-fascist stance of the club & origins of their use of the symbol. I suppose it's always worth considering what your symbol might say to others.
Your lucky they didn't shoot first and ask questions later. You could have shouted "Don't shoot, I'm a pirate" of course!
No kidding.....I've often wondered what he's doing now..
I believe he now uses a line painting gun for the highways department and goes by the name of Dik Turps
irate:His music can be found free on Pirate Bay.
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I really couldn't give a rats **** if it is or it ain't myself.Politics is politics and each and all are entitled to there's! I reckon by most of the lefty **** stains opinions I'd wager they'd class myself as a racist, personally I don't but if those types were to put that label on me as is there shrill hysterical closed minded want I'd take that as a badge of honor to quite honest!
no problems ere chap! Well non that a good win on the lotto couldn't cure anyway!I'm sure being labelled as a racist is the least of your problems.....
by most lefties, and their opinions are worthless and mean nothing to me because of what and who they are BUT I don't begrudge them unlike they themselves do to others!You missed TAIL and INKY out.
Your lucky they didn't shoot first and ask questions later. You could have shouted "Don't shoot, I'm a pirate" of course!
Over here the skull and crossbones is often used (unofficially) as an infantry or special ops logo. We shoot pirates.
Ah the irony..... And your opinion is rendered meaningless as you decry all lefties in the same manner you are whinging about.
Yours, a lefty.
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