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presterjohn

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If only 6 million Jews had been a little more paranoid! Their tats didn't work out so well for them. There are a hell of a lot more well informed students of history and current affairs than there used to be and I haven't seen many of them wearing a tin hat. I recommend 'Tragedy and Hope' by Carroll Quighley. Interesting conspiracy facts unless of course you think conspiracy doesn't exist. Katherine Albrecht's best seller 'Spy Chips' also provides the industry's self-confessed evidence of exactly where the biochip and general RFD chip corporations are wanting to go with the technology. You don't need to wear a tin hat to follow the Scientific Method, study evidence, research and develop logical supported theories. If you don't study and learn from History then you are doomed to repeat it.


What you see as evidence the rest of us see as stories and anecdotes that are not backed up by real evidence.
 

Harvestman

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It is a curiosity, but despite the claims of various beauty product manufacturers, a tattoo is still the only skin treatment available that will actually change the condition of your skin.

Personally I don't think it changes it for the better, but that's just my opinion.
 

CLEM

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Read your post again. Read how insulting it is to yourself. Someone labels you as racist, and your wear it as a badge of honour. You are the intellectual equivalent, to the single cell bacteria, that lives in the crack of one's ****
No I really don't think your understanding, it would be an insult if it were from someone whose opinion I respected. Understand now???
 

CLEM

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I tend to agree with your sentiments about the racist label. However I think it is only fair to point out that CLEM is answering politely and calmly to the responses to his posts. Perhaps anyone answering should use the same courtesy?
Thank you!
 

santaman2000

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North American spelling, more sensible in many ways, but wrong. Not as wrong as North American pronunciation though...

Aluminium = Aloooominum
Edinburgh = Edinburo).....

Actually you're also spelling aluminum wrong, and yes that was originally the NA spelling (well the US spelling anyway, I believe Canadian spelling was the same as the UK) spelling but it has since become the standard international spelling in the scientific community.

As for the pronunciation of Edinburgh, well are you saying that "Edinburo" is the NA pronunciation? If so you're wrong; everybody over here says it "Ed-in-burg" I've only ever heard it pronounced "Ed-in-burro" in the UK. I assumed that as it is a UK city, the UK pronunciation would be the proper on though.
 
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santaman2000

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.....Inbuilt chips and ID Cards and Europe wide medical databases, I don't need to be paranoid to not want them I just need to look at the history of government IT and Database projects, costs, overruns, timetable extensions and cancelations.

I have my GP's mobile number in my passport, if someone over here needs to ask him a question he is happy to take the call, my passport is my ID card, here or anywhere else in the world,.....

So you'd prefer that just anyone who might steal your passport to be able to call your GP and get your personal medical information? I'm surprised that your GP would even give it out over the phone (it's illegal here as it's protected, private info)

To my mind an implanted chip is actually a layer of protection against identity theft by some miscreant thief (which is a much more real possibility than some government conspiracy)
 
Nov 29, 2004
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"...So you'd prefer that just anyone who might steal your passport to be able to call your GP and get your personal medical information?..."

Ah well, you see thats the thing, my GP is a human being, a Scotsman in his late fifties, we've known each other for years. If he gets a call from someone in Kazakhstan saying "I'm Dr. Blah from Blah Hospital, we've got this bloke here, he is in a bad way, is he allergic to such and such then he will provide that info. A few more faxes and digital jiggery-pokery might have more info going back and forth before copies of my past health records, x-rays or whatever were sent over.

If a machine were to call up my GP's or the NHS's machine and have the correct credentials then all my info zips over to the inquirer in an instant, if the system is flawed, has been broken or just doesn't work as folks imagined it might the wrong people could simply hoover up everybody's records.

The Edinboro thing surprises me, the only folks who struggled to pronounce it were from North America, Wisconsin actually, maybe that was problem. :)

And its Aluminium! Everybody else is wrong. :)

Edited to add:

When you spell out Edinburg as the NA pronunciation, is that a mis type? because the correct pronunciation is 'Edinburah' or in some parts of that city 'Embra'.
 
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santaman2000

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Ah well, you see thats the thing, my GP is a human being, a Scotsman in his late fifties, we've known each other for years. If he gets a call from someone in Kazakhstan saying "I'm Dr. Blah from Blah Hospital, we've got this bloke here, he is in a bad way, is he allergic to such and such then he will provide that info. A few more faxes and digital jiggery-pokery might have more info going back and forth before copies of my past health records, x-rays or whatever were sent over.....

My Dr. (my PCM and all the specialists I see as well) are human beings too. And if they got a phone call from somebody in Kazakhstan they'd assume it was a scam. In any case, as I said, they're prohibited by law from giving out any of my info with out either:
1. My express, written permission or
2. A court order
 

santaman2000

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....The Edinboro thing surprises me, the only folks who struggled to pronounce it were from North America, Wisconsin actually, maybe that was problem. :).....

Edited to add:

When you spell out Edinburg as the NA pronunciation, is that a mis type? because the correct pronunciation is 'Edinburu' or in some parts of that city 'Embra'.

Wisconsinites do have a thick accent (kind of a cross between their German roots and Canadian) but no, what I said stands; most over here pronounce it "Ed-in-burg."
 
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My Dr. (my PCM and all the specialists I see as well) are human beings too. And if they got a phone call from somebody in Kazakhstan they'd assume it was a scam. In any case, as I said, they're prohibited by law from giving out any of my info with out either:
1. My express, written permission or
2. A court order

We have hijacked the thread!

My Dr. would know I was there, his call I suppose, he did once get a call from Sweden but they didn't want any info and were just giving him the heads up about the mess that was heading his way.

Again, Edinburg, is that a hard 'g' at the end?
 
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A strange occurrence yesterday, I had booked a consultation with a local tattooist here in Brighton, an artist I had respected. Anyway I wanted the image of Tiw (the metal broach found at Sutton Ho) tattooed on my right flank. I showed the image and straight away he snapped I won't do racist crap. I was taken back I explained what it was and why and tried to explain that it was not racial why I was having this done. But he was adamant that it was a far right symbol and by doing so I was claiming to be Anglo Saxon White.
Bit saddened that I could be perceived as a racist and that this chap was so narrow minded, but is that the way society is.
Sorry if this sounds a bit watery but just wanted to get anyone else's view on this. Have now found another guy who will do it, so some restoration

To make up for the earlier hijacking, I looked up the image and didn't find any links to neo-nazi/racist/far right groups. I make a point of going to the Sutton Hoo exhibit at the British Museum whenever I visit, some beautiful stuff there, it is your heritage, if you want it on your arm or wherever so be it, if some nutjobs want to use that symbol to spread their hateful ideology, take it back from them, it isn't theirs, it belongs to everybody.

Thats my tuppence worth.
 

brambles

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Apr 26, 2012
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what I said stands; most over here pronounce it "Ed-in-burg."

Weird ways you lot in the Yoony Ted Stattys of Aimerissa have! It's pronounced Edin-burra, a hard g pronounciation belongs to the truncated German , like Nuremberg which has no h at the end. Burgh is like burough in the US, the g is not pronounced.
 

santaman2000

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Weird ways you lot in the Yoony Ted Stattys of Aimerissa have! It's pronounced Edin-burra, a hard g pronounciation belongs to the truncated German , like Nuremberg which has no h at the end. Burgh is like burough in the US, the g is not pronounced.

Agreed Rik. As I said, since it's a UK city. I'd defer to the UK pronunciation generally.

That said, how many centuries did we in North America and Europe mispronounce Bejing (Peking) and Mombai (Bombay)?
 

brambles

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Apr 26, 2012
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That said, how many centuries did we in North America and Europe mispronounce Bejing (Peking) and Mombai (Bombay)?

I'm not sure those were mispronounciations as much as alternate "colonial" names - IIRC Peking was based on the regional dialect of the first Chinese trading port Europeans entered and Bombay is an anglisication of a Portugese descriptive name. I'm sure there are also a lot of US place names folk here would get wrong at first attempt - Arkansas, La Jolla, Spokane, Des Moines come to mind. Around me there are a few places that no-one EVER gets right - written Strachan, Finzean and Chapel of Garioch , but without local knowledge even other Scots get them wrong!
 

rik_uk3

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Agreed Rik. As I said, since it's a UK city. I'd defer to the UK pronunciation generally.

That said, how many centuries did we in North America and Europe mispronounce Bejing (Peking) and Mombai (Bombay)?

But we're British and am fully allowed to call places what we want and if it upsets Jonny Foreigner then so be it; they should learn English.
 

CLEM

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But we're British and am fully allowed to call places what we want and if it upsets Jonny Foreigner then so be it; they should learn English.
Steady on old chap, some uncouth type will very likely be along forthwith and call you a dastardly racialist what what :lmao:
 

carabao

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To make up for the earlier hijacking, I looked up the image and didn't find any links to neo-nazi/racist/far right groups. I make a point of going to the Sutton Hoo exhibit at the British Museum whenever I visit, some beautiful stuff there, it is your heritage, if you want it on your arm or wherever so be it, if some nutjobs want to use that symbol to spread their hateful ideology, take it back from them, it isn't theirs, it belongs to everybody.

Thats my tuppence worth.

Thanks, Sandbender, I need to visit the display soon as. It is part of my heritage / DNA, I'm like most of us mongrels, I have Irish, English and my children are even more mixed with my blood and their mothers Chinese, Thai, Lao, blood. I'm proud but far from the point the Rivers of blood fanatics.
Tiw and his mythology and what his image represents is what made me decide to have this inked. Being inked is a way of marking my journey,I have chosen images that at that point remind me of a stage, be it pleasant or nasty, iif they can remind me of what I should be. At the moment I'm struggling with it all, I need to be reminded that we have challenges and struggles and with effort you can make it.
 

santaman2000

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......I'm sure there are also a lot of US place names folk here would get wrong at first attempt - Arkansas, La Jolla, Spokane, Des Moines come to mind. Around me there are a few places that no-one EVER gets right - written Strachan, Finzean and Chapel of Garioch , but without local knowledge even other Scots get them wrong!

Agreed. The funniest (to me) mispronunciation of a British name by Americans is when they (those Americans that haven't been there) say Worcestershire. Phonetically it's correct with either the British or the American pronunciation; just depends on where you separate the syllables. Sort of like the Choctawhatchee Bay here.

An American place name (a southern one) that's difficult even for Americans not from the area is Susqueloc in Mississippi. Unless you were from there you'd never think of the correct pronunciation: Sugar-lock.
 
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