No, not really. I think you probably put her on the back foot with your response as well.
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No, not really. I think you probably put her on the back foot with your response as well.
I'm a Scot. That matters because it seems we don't see things like the rest of the country does.
Yet we get inundated with cash rich incomers who think that they now "OWN" their land and all that happens upon it.
Not here.
It has never been an offence to be somewhere just for a walk....if you cause no damage, don't intrude on the curtiledge of a demense or disturb farm animals.
One such incomer a bit up the river from us was so incensed that folks could use the river footpath "THROUGH HIS LAND!!!", that he cut down 300 year old oak trees to spoil their view. He was further incensed when he was charged with destoying them but utterly unrepentant that he'd done so for the reason stated.
Most folks would prefer to know those who wander through their land though; that's fair enough. Be civil, say hello, see if there's anything you might do to help ? Peace for all of us.
Hippy friends live in a commune away up the valley; they welcome everyone.
They only get annoyed when a crowd of teenagers who just wanted to drive some place have a big fire and a complete wee up and leave their trash, decided to use their field for it.
I can't blame them; that kind of behaviour just is not acceptable for anyone. Their parents ought to be black affronted that their kids behaved like that.
I know a earl whose family owns an enormous amount of land. He too welcomes people who don't abuse things, happily chatted away to folks. It's healthy. It crosses all boundaries of 'class' or dress (the earl's cashmere cardigans are more patched than a school teacher's tweed jacket)
Dress for the weather, the site, and who cares ?
Quiet rant over
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Indeed.
Rude and antisocial is rude and antisocial. Neither one's dress nor one's "politics" (whatever that means these days) dictates whether someone is "decent" or not.
What you describe about land may well happen in parts of England, but I've not come across it either in the rural extreme north of England were I lived as a bairn (culturally similar to Scotland up there tho) or in Wales.
That said..... there will be landowners who get frustrated at gates left open, dogs worrying sheep, ripe crops walked through and damaged, theft of stuff (quad bikes, livestock), horses being hurt, flytipping, grassland arson, rave "parties" which trash the place etc etc etc. As a result, they may well be more suspicious of people that look a bit similar to those who were noorty before, because they've already suffered damage. Probably more of an issue in more crowded areas of England.
There's common land in the south Wales Valleys that had a MAJOR issue with flytipping until the Common Rangers (local authority employees) put massive earthworks and boulders at the vehicle access areas. The dry summer sport of burning the hillside started in the Valleys too (to the extent that when there were grass fire in England last dry summer we had, the South Wales Fire Brigade were asked for advice/suport due to their extensive experience of tackling greass fires......
)Cash-rich incomers: depends on how they interact with the community. If they buy local, stop and chat, respect local customs, fit into the area- they are generally welcomed. If however they bring their "London attitudes" and cannot understand why their complaints about the cockeral crowing in the morning or the church clock striking don't land well- then it rarely works. It's not just cash-rich incomers tho; if you come into any community and dont respect standards of behaviour, or behave in a way which the locals regard as abusing the existing system, then it won't go down well.
Of course a minority of landowners will just be Gits, because, well, there's a proportion of society that is so, and by law of averages some will be landlords. Just like some suburban garden dwellers will get worked up over a tree in a neighbour's garden dropping leaves in autumn... or some other daft thing. Human nature, but doesn't mean that everyone is like that.
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And alas, I have read otherwise good books on the countryside which leave out the concept of integration, and seem to assume that the locals dont matter.
And recently met someone who said they didnt like Scotland because the Scots hated the English...I agree that to be English in Scotland you need a certain thickness of skin...like being Scots in England...
And recently met someone who said they didnt like Scotland because the Scots hated the English...I agree that to be English in Scotland you need a certain thickness of skin...like being Scots in England...
Sometimes 
On the whole I find folks very pleasant, and most are as civil, and friendly, as they can be.
The English shops don't like our bank notes though.
On the whole I find folks very pleasant, and most are as civil, and friendly, as they can be.
The English shops don't like our bank notes though.
I know a friend who worked an event for an officer's mess.....of a regiment that had just come back from Northern Ireland. They paid him six hundred quid in NI notes 
These days we just make sure we have English ones before we cross the border. It just keeps things easy.
We know it's wrong, but our notes aren't commonplace down there so folks are probably right to be suspicious, even if it does annoy us greatly.
We know it's wrong, but our notes aren't commonplace down there so folks are probably right to be suspicious, even if it does annoy us greatly.
