Non expensive kit
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I know that's you RikBike, thats me in the video mate, and I've got two for the 123
.. didn't know you had a 'spare' The oil lighters from dealextreme mentioned earlier aren't much good, it can take ages to get them to light up. It's better to just get a bic lighter, matches or a firesteel. A firesteel is really the cheapest option if you take into account how many times you can make fire with it and how indestructible it is.
There was another good thread on cheap kit:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18667&highlight=bushcraft+budget
Many people are looking for bargains all the time, me too. But I think more and more it's better to take into account the way it was produced, where, who, etc etc before the price. But anyway, second hand seems for me the best option for people without a lot of money. As it's possible to get good quality items at a low price, which haven't been produced in china. Woolen clothes are easy to get and often I just use a woolen sweater as baselayer too, that's an idea if you find a merino layer too expensive. Here it's also quite easy to get good anoraks second hand, woolen army pants, mittens, wool army socks, woolen hat...
Another advice is to get only few items and get them of good quality. You don't need most of the stuff sold in outdoor stores.
This is all needed:
-Clothes: woolen army pants, some wool sweaters (second hand shop), a jacket/anorak (second hand shop), two pair woolen army socks, underpants, woolen army mittens, leather army gloves, woolen hat (second hand shop)
-Roof: tarp/poncho and some rope
-Cutting tools:
a mora knife, or get a brusletto blade (better steel) and make your own handle , sheath (birch bark sheath is quick to make and for free)
wetterlings axe or gransfors (worth it as they last a lifetime, same for knife)
sharpening with sand paper, or fallkniven dc4
-Cooking and eating:
swedish army trangia (good open fire cooking pots too)
metal cup to drink and eat from (or carve/burn out a small bowl)
a metal spoon ,or make one
Sleeping:
foam sleeping mat (get two for winter)
second hand down sleeping bag (army) or alpkit bag, or ofcourse blankets but often it's not possible to have a good fire going all night to keep warm in the kind of forests we have these days.
And:
a swedish firesteel
a basic silva or recta compass
a second hand backpack or a highlander forces 88l
Often the best quality you can get for your money is by making your equipment yourself.
There was another good thread on cheap kit:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18667&highlight=bushcraft+budget
Many people are looking for bargains all the time, me too. But I think more and more it's better to take into account the way it was produced, where, who, etc etc before the price. But anyway, second hand seems for me the best option for people without a lot of money. As it's possible to get good quality items at a low price, which haven't been produced in china. Woolen clothes are easy to get and often I just use a woolen sweater as baselayer too, that's an idea if you find a merino layer too expensive. Here it's also quite easy to get good anoraks second hand, woolen army pants, mittens, wool army socks, woolen hat...
Another advice is to get only few items and get them of good quality. You don't need most of the stuff sold in outdoor stores.
This is all needed:
-Clothes: woolen army pants, some wool sweaters (second hand shop), a jacket/anorak (second hand shop), two pair woolen army socks, underpants, woolen army mittens, leather army gloves, woolen hat (second hand shop)
-Roof: tarp/poncho and some rope
-Cutting tools:
a mora knife, or get a brusletto blade (better steel) and make your own handle , sheath (birch bark sheath is quick to make and for free)
wetterlings axe or gransfors (worth it as they last a lifetime, same for knife)
sharpening with sand paper, or fallkniven dc4
-Cooking and eating:
swedish army trangia (good open fire cooking pots too)
metal cup to drink and eat from (or carve/burn out a small bowl)
a metal spoon ,or make one
Sleeping:
foam sleeping mat (get two for winter)
second hand down sleeping bag (army) or alpkit bag, or ofcourse blankets but often it's not possible to have a good fire going all night to keep warm in the kind of forests we have these days.
And:
a swedish firesteel
a basic silva or recta compass
a second hand backpack or a highlander forces 88l
Often the best quality you can get for your money is by making your equipment yourself.
indeed, i was looking at walking poles the other day and just being horrified by the price (yet drawn to the shiney shineyness) when i walked past a stand of hazel and realised that in about 10m of roadside bush there was about 100 walking poles all wonderfully straight and sturdy.
cord? easy braided para then threaded through the top.
best bit is, they're being cut back shortly and i know one of the gardeners so i'll make sure i get a fair few and have them season!
pete
cord? easy braided para then threaded through the top.
best bit is, they're being cut back shortly and i know one of the gardeners so i'll make sure i get a fair few and have them season!
pete
Threads like this and especially OP are inspiring. One of the things that puts new people off going into the woods is kit snobbery.
Expensive brand names and such are thrown about, I was rereading RM's book the other day and it dawned on me the amount of advertising he was doing.
If I cant make it or make do I buy budget on just about everything, I dont want to worry about money when I'm wading through the brambles, bracken and stomping about the woods.
Just got a new axe from Ebay £8:98 including postage Draper hand axe solidly built, I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces.
Expensive brand names and such are thrown about, I was rereading RM's book the other day and it dawned on me the amount of advertising he was doing.
If I cant make it or make do I buy budget on just about everything, I dont want to worry about money when I'm wading through the brambles, bracken and stomping about the woods.
Just got a new axe from Ebay £8:98 including postage Draper hand axe solidly built, I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces.
Not the 123 Graham, the SIG Tourest Cookset designed for the 123, fantastic kit. The 123's can be had new (a new batch made) for about £60
Here is one with the stove, not a bad price if he would ship to the UK
eBay 110357488417
Here is one with the stove, not a bad price if he would ship to the UK
eBay 110357488417
Well mine is sort of untill you add it up!
5.11 Tac base Layer - New £12.00 (ebay)
5.11 Tac Polo Shirt - New £11.50 (ebay)
Sweat Shirt ?
SASS Kit Karry Smock £23.00 (ebay)
5.11 Tac Trousers £24.00 New (ebay) or Tru Spec OG New £10 (ebay)
5.11 Socks £12.00 (ebay) or Karrimor Socks (Asda) £5.00 for 3 pairs- New
Matterhorn Boots ebay £27.00 (ebay) or Karrimor KSB £23.00 (ebay)
Fleece Hat and Baseball Cap ?
Eagle Industries 3 Day Assault Bag £22.00 (ebay) replaced with Bugout 3 Day Pass £55.00 (ebay) New
Nearly everything bought for a fraction of the RRP!
5.11 Tac base Layer - New £12.00 (ebay)
5.11 Tac Polo Shirt - New £11.50 (ebay)
Sweat Shirt ?
SASS Kit Karry Smock £23.00 (ebay)
5.11 Tac Trousers £24.00 New (ebay) or Tru Spec OG New £10 (ebay)
5.11 Socks £12.00 (ebay) or Karrimor Socks (Asda) £5.00 for 3 pairs- New
Matterhorn Boots ebay £27.00 (ebay) or Karrimor KSB £23.00 (ebay)
Fleece Hat and Baseball Cap ?
Eagle Industries 3 Day Assault Bag £22.00 (ebay) replaced with Bugout 3 Day Pass £55.00 (ebay) New
Nearly everything bought for a fraction of the RRP!
hi everyone here's what i have spent so far Non expensive kit!! i think..well one of my neighbours had this stuff it was still in the wrappers..
1 x vango vapor tent... 30 pounds
1 x vango conture 50+10s... 15 pounds
1 x vango ultralight voyager 50 sleeping bag... 15 pounds
not bad for 60 pounds & i think the dearest thing will be my boots..& i am thinking of making my own stove like the ones on here..atb shogun
i did buy the dd tarp & dd travel/hammock too!..lol
1 x vango vapor tent... 30 pounds
1 x vango conture 50+10s... 15 pounds
1 x vango ultralight voyager 50 sleeping bag... 15 pounds
not bad for 60 pounds & i think the dearest thing will be my boots..& i am thinking of making my own stove like the ones on here..atb shogun
i did buy the dd tarp & dd travel/hammock too!..lol
Some non expensive kit I got yesterday morning,
3 pack of cotton teeshirts £1
5 pack cotton and elastine socks £1
Fleece Head sweat band 50p
Fleece jogging cap 50p
Fleece Buff 50p
Merino thermal t shirt £1.50
Olive waterproof Kagool £1.50
Oliver trousers for above £1.50
2 wool crew neck sweaters £3
1 V neck lambswool sweater £1.50
1 Full length wet suit £1.50.
1 pair padded cycle underpants 50p
1 pair thinsulate waterproof trousers £1.50
2 pack of boxer shorts 50p
1 polycotton blue check work shirt £1
Thats just my stuff, the wife and kids got loads as well.
All New!
3 pack of cotton teeshirts £1
5 pack cotton and elastine socks £1
Fleece Head sweat band 50p
Fleece jogging cap 50p
Fleece Buff 50p
Merino thermal t shirt £1.50
Olive waterproof Kagool £1.50
Oliver trousers for above £1.50
2 wool crew neck sweaters £3
1 V neck lambswool sweater £1.50
1 Full length wet suit £1.50.
1 pair padded cycle underpants 50p
1 pair thinsulate waterproof trousers £1.50
2 pack of boxer shorts 50p
1 polycotton blue check work shirt £1
Thats just my stuff, the wife and kids got loads as well.
All New!
You guys think there is snobbery when it comes to bushcraft gear!? Here in the US everyone these days is nuts over untralight gear. All your gear put together weighs under 10 lb and costs as much as your car. Most people here think I am crazy for carrying an axe and a fixed blade knife. They look upon me with pity and try to educate me about the enlightened way.
I must admit however, that I fall into the trap from time to time. I do carry a titanium pot. It costs more than my knife, but it does save a lot of weight. I also have a flashlight that can run continuously for a week on a AA battery, but costs an embarrassing amount.
It is a very good idea to cut down your pack weight, but unfortunately the process also cuts down you pocket weight.
I must admit however, that I fall into the trap from time to time. I do carry a titanium pot. It costs more than my knife, but it does save a lot of weight. I also have a flashlight that can run continuously for a week on a AA battery, but costs an embarrassing amount.
It is a very good idea to cut down your pack weight, but unfortunately the process also cuts down you pocket weight.
There is a very old bushcraft saying which must apply over there also,
"The more you earn, the less you carry"
"The more you earn, the less you carry"
I have a 70 L backpac .. and a 30 L backpack
when I go out with a 30 L backpack i use a hip kit also
everithing has .. 10 - 15 kg
if i use da 70 L backpack .. I've got a 30 - 40 kg on my back
titaniu :-O aluminium is light and cheap a pot of 1 L cost 2 euros ofcourse it's not so durable as the titanium pot but .. at that price I can buy one for each trip
when I go out with a 30 L backpack i use a hip kit also
everithing has .. 10 - 15 kg
if i use da 70 L backpack .. I've got a 30 - 40 kg on my back
titaniu :-O
aluminium is light and cheap a pot of 1 L cost 2 euros ofcourse it's not so durable as the titanium pot but .. at that price I can buy one for each trip 
I would recommend a military IPK Sheet these can be bought for about £5 or less its designed to be a roof for an underground shelter, but its a cheep quality tarp ideal as a starter.
I would also recommend spending a little extra when buying a Knife, it will be worth it.
I would also advise you dont buy cotton trousers unless they they are thin and quick drying, cotton has a tendance to soak up alot of water (like a towel) and takes ages to dry
And finaly have a sence of humour, relax and enjoy your experience..
good luck
I would also recommend spending a little extra when buying a Knife, it will be worth it.
I would also advise you dont buy cotton trousers unless they they are thin and quick drying, cotton has a tendance to soak up alot of water (like a towel) and takes ages to dry
And finaly have a sence of humour, relax and enjoy your experience..
good luck
Thats my kit:
Trousers 20 euros (army syrplus shop)
Boots 20 euros (from the factory shop)
Wool Socks pack of 3 2 euros (from the local market)
Shirt (made from 70% polyester & 30 % cotton) 4 to 5 euros (from the local market)
T-shirt (made from cotton) pack of 3 3 to 4 euros (hypermarket)
Fleece 5 euros (hypermarket)
Vest with fleece lining and with a lot of pockets 10 euros (from the local market)
Wool kagool 2 euros or 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Bush Hat 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Mosquito hat 2 euros (fishing shop)
Wool gloves 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Thinsulate gloves 5 euros (army surplus shop)
PVC Poncho 15 euros (sport shop)
Gaiter 18 euros (sport shop)
Military water canteen (bottle) 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Military small bag (for the hip belt) 8 to 9 euros (army surplus shop)
Aluminium 1L pot 2 euros (hypermarket)
Aluminium 250 ml can 1 euro (hypermarket)
Sunglases 35 euros (sport shop)
Compass 3 to 4 euros (sport shop)
Knife 50 euros (helle eggen)
Pocket knife Opinel nr. 8 10 euros
Pocket knife Victorinox Recruit 12 euros
Firesteel from Primus 8 euros
Tarp 3m/3m 30 euros (decathlon hypermarket)
Hammock 15 euros (nahanny shop)
Net hammock 5 euros (fishing shop)
30L Backpack (from highschool cant remember the price)
If I will buy from charity shops the prices will drop I will go to some charitu shops in my neighbourhood to see their offer
Trousers 20 euros (army syrplus shop)
Boots 20 euros (from the factory shop)
Wool Socks pack of 3 2 euros (from the local market)
Shirt (made from 70% polyester & 30 % cotton) 4 to 5 euros (from the local market)
T-shirt (made from cotton) pack of 3 3 to 4 euros (hypermarket)
Fleece 5 euros (hypermarket)
Vest with fleece lining and with a lot of pockets 10 euros (from the local market)
Wool kagool 2 euros or 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Bush Hat 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Mosquito hat 2 euros (fishing shop)
Wool gloves 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Thinsulate gloves 5 euros (army surplus shop)
PVC Poncho 15 euros (sport shop)
Gaiter 18 euros (sport shop)
Military water canteen (bottle) 5 euros (army surplus shop)
Military small bag (for the hip belt) 8 to 9 euros (army surplus shop)
Aluminium 1L pot 2 euros (hypermarket)
Aluminium 250 ml can 1 euro (hypermarket)
Sunglases 35 euros (sport shop)
Compass 3 to 4 euros (sport shop)
Knife 50 euros (helle eggen)
Pocket knife Opinel nr. 8 10 euros
Pocket knife Victorinox Recruit 12 euros
Firesteel from Primus 8 euros
Tarp 3m/3m 30 euros (decathlon hypermarket)
Hammock 15 euros (nahanny shop)
Net hammock 5 euros (fishing shop)
30L Backpack (from highschool
cant remember the price)If I will buy from charity shops the prices will drop
I will go to some charitu shops in my neighbourhood to see their offer
Hello, I made visit to local surplus store today and got a lot of good clothing and stuff for 12 EUR all together !! That´s best deal I have found for long time
Stuff from up left to down right
1) German long sleeve button shirt 3,5 EUR
2) German canvas laundry bag 1 EUR
3) German toilet case for personal hygiene 1 EUR
4) German heavy duty strap 1 EUR
5) Swedish army technical polo shirt (transform moisture to outer layers) 2,5 EUR
6) 2 pcs German summer camo jacket 1 EUR / each
7) German army scalf (twofold in picture)
8) Austrian army combat pants 2,5 EUR (not in picture)
9) German army backpack (not in picture)
Some of the colorful stuff in picture are my son´s toys
Stuff from up left to down right
1) German long sleeve button shirt 3,5 EUR
2) German canvas laundry bag 1 EUR
3) German toilet case for personal hygiene 1 EUR
4) German heavy duty strap 1 EUR
5) Swedish army technical polo shirt (transform moisture to outer layers) 2,5 EUR
6) 2 pcs German summer camo jacket 1 EUR / each
7) German army scalf (twofold in picture)
8) Austrian army combat pants 2,5 EUR (not in picture)
9) German army backpack (not in picture)
Some of the colorful stuff in picture are my son´s toys
Hello, I made visit to local surplus store today and got a lot of good clothing and stuff for 12 EUR all together !! That´s best deal I have found for long time
Stuff from up left to down right
1) German long sleeve button shirt 3,5 EUR
2) German canvas laundry bag 1 EUR
3) German toilet case for personal hygiene 1 EUR
4) German heavy duty strap 1 EUR
5) Swedish army technical polo shirt (transform moisture to outer layers) 2,5 EUR
6) 2 pcs German summer camo jacket 1 EUR / each
7) German army scalf (twofold in picture)
8) Austrian army combat pants 2,5 EUR (not in picture)
9) German army backpack (not in picture)
Some of the colorful stuff in picture are my son´s toys
:O
both of the surplus stores near me have closed down
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