New British Army Camo Uniform

[Humpback]

Just seen on BBC web site the new camo uniform:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8422942.stm
Two things spring to mind. One, that it doesn't look so stark as the existing camo patterns.
And two, as it is rolled out through to 2011 there should be a fair amount of old style clothing and kit coming onto the second hand market.
Alan

 

[The Cumbrian]

Looks similar to Multicam to me.

 

[Tetley]

British special forces have been using Crye's Multicam in the green zone for 18 months now as I have been informed by an ex work colleague who is still "in" (SFSG) and this new MTP pattern has been derived from it under license and is better liked than the Digital DPM pattern developed by a UK company which was also trialled .

The troops like it and I must admit it is very Alli indeed !

 

[wingstoo]

http://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/mtp.jpg?w=600&h=448

Slightly better image of the pattern.

• It will be issued to all personnel deploying on Op HERRICK from March 2010 then issued more widely to the UK Armed Forces from 2011.

It was a few years back but there were Air cadets wearing Soldier '95 surplus combats before the stuff was being issued to the regulars.

I wonder how long it will be before we see lots of the old stuff coming to the surplus stores, maybe see some of the new gear first

 

[Shewie]

I wouldn't mind a set of gortex in that design.

 

[deeps]

And this is another one of Cryes (the people who own Multicam) products

http://www.cryeprecision.com/P-APRTGK00LG0/Guns-Kill-Hippies™

You would hope that with large governmental deals on the table somebody in their PR department would suggest they act slightly more grown up.

 

[rancid badger]

The sad fact here; is that what Lt Col Evans, is NOT saying, is that it all boils down to cheapness

It's obviously cheaper to use one pattern of camouflage for everything, than to use two different ones.
I wouldn't mind, but I don't suppose they'll be investing any of the money saved, by adopting the single pattern, to improve the quality of the cloth either.
The knees and arxes, will still wear out in no time flat and I dread to think, what the (already washed out looking)pattern will look like after 20-30 washes

Its really easy to sit in Whitehall and decide that; "We need to cheapen the kit we supply to our forces even more". Once again; the 'experts' and yes men, who make these decisions, don't actually have to wear the kit for real do they?

Not too many bullet/bomb dodgers, in the M.O.D. management I'll wager:bluThinki

I could well be wrong of course, I often am, but in the words of the great Nuttini: "there's no harm in being wrong you know?......in fact to me, its common ground!"

Bah! load of cow do do

Now then; where'd that dummy land?.............................Ah! there it is.....

R.B.

 

[Nat]

Yet more crappy gear from our government trying to save pennies at the expense of our forces.
I'm tempted to throw it back at them when i get it issued, it looks utter carp.
But typical of the MOD, get a good looking rupert to show it off and use his glib tongue to sell it to the public.

 

[Waterworx]

Just hope that if it is down to cost/cheapness then the guys on the front line will/should get the gear they need to do their job as safley as possible.

Now with multicam, I'm personally don't like it, it seems a compromise in whatever theatre it is used in. Example, look at the OP's original video, around the 40 s mark, I think, the new multicam stands out like the proverbial sore thumb against the nice green bushes where as the DPM does blend in a tad better.

Did find this though, via someone elses link

Spot the camo

Some are quite difficult to spot.

 

[andybysea]

Looks very like US multicam especially from a distance, looking more like US soldiers good thing or bad for our military? plus is probably down to costing.

 

[Rabbitsmacker]

i think its a good step forward, better than digitising our existing stuff as the USMC have done. i'm sure the crye stuff was trial run by US forces and found to be too expensive to produce it on mass and they went for the digital ACU which is pants anyway, but the crye multicam is very good in comparison, fitting in well with more terrain than the ACU so the British version may be a better product in the long run.

a shame about good old DPM though, all things change though i guess. get ready for the surplus store being inundated with masses of stuff! really it's kinda just a modern flecktarn or similar dot design which is how old!?!/!? like fashion i guess, good ideas roll round again evetually.

 

[Jiimlad42]

hmm, looks like the US camo to me. All we can hope is that the money one set of camo will be spent on buying some better equipment for the troops. Also what will they do with re-spraying vehicles? will all the vehicles stay as they are or will they roll out a neutral colour for all of the vehicles too. It looks like the only good thing this will do is create lots of cheap army surplus for us.

 

[johnboy]

Just seen on BBC web site the new camo uniform:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8422942.stm
Two things spring to mind. One, that it doesn't look so stark as the existing camo patterns.
And two, as it is rolled out through to 2011 there should be a fair amount of old style clothing and kit coming onto the second hand market.
Alan

A third thing springs to mind for me. If the MOD is going to the lengths of fielding a new specific camo pattern for the 'green' zone in Afghanistan and rolling it out to the whole army then clearly the commitment to keep troops there is a long one...

 

[gsfgaz]

u may get dpm camo cheaper now...

 

[Carbuncle]

The sad fact here; is that what Lt Col Evans, is NOT saying, is that it all boils down to cheapness

It's obviously cheaper to use one pattern of camouflage for everything, than to use two different ones.

They'll still issue the desert DPM (according to ARRSE) "The issue is 3 x MTP and 1 x desert cam."

Of course, the american 5th column that is the Telegraph has "British Army to get new uniforms – turned down by the US and made in China". Oh for the good old days when we'd hang the likes of Lord Haw Haw.

 

[hog]

You can see whats going to happen, the UK will end up with loads of different types of camo, like the Americans and start to look non uniform, as in to many paterns and confusion comming in.

 

[Melonfish]

Wow, i like it, slight modification on multicam but similar shades, thing is they've tested multicam in a fair few environments and its proven to be very effective.

should look pretty good i reckon, i'll miss the old DPM tho, litterally grown on us.
i can see why they went down this route however, one pattern over 2 is alot cheaper, plus the specials have been wearing multicam like they're setting a new trend, its become so "ally" to wear it i'm suprised we don't see lads out with multicam beret's!

i'm not even going near my usual airsoft forums for a while methinks, the usual geardo's are going to be frothing at the mouth over this one, where the die hard DPMers are going to be stacking their stuff into a funeral pyre and standing in the dark watching the fire with the music from ROTJ "darths funeral scene" playing in the background...

 

[johnboy]

It seems the MOD have taken a design registration or patent out on the pattern. So in theory no cheap knock offs can be made.... I guess we might be saying adios to Webtex et al in the not to distant future...

 

[Mastino]

Multicam indeed, they could have settled for this (the next big thing for camo fashionistas) http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/mirage_picture-31.jpg&imgrefurl=http://strikehold.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/mirage-camo-uniforms-from-bulldog-equipment/&usg=__EtAHBKx4VcqEZsHshHOF-ofIr94=&h=696&w=577&sz=60&hl=nl&start=4&um=1&tbnid=qZd9z62O5P6cKM:&tbnh=139&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmirage%2Bcamo%26hl%3Dnl%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

 

[rancid badger]

It seems the MOD have taken a design registration or patent out on the pattern. So in theory no cheap knock offs can be made.... I guess we might be saying adios to Webtex et al in the not to distant future...

Oh well, every cloud has a silver lining

R.B.