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how many of us are first aid trained?
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I did the appointed person course yesterday (I have done several in the past, the last one being about 3-4 years ago) and a fair amount has changed.
I'm ashamed to say that I didnt remember very much at all and would urge anyone that is thinking about doing it to get signed up ASAP.
j
I'm ashamed to say that I didnt remember very much at all and would urge anyone that is thinking about doing it to get signed up ASAP.
j
Military and combat first aid.
Have used both in military and civvy situations. Civvy situation was a colleague with me on a training ride. Front wheel went side from under him and he landed square on his chin. Went unconscious for short period. Did all the shock/recovery stuff and - luckily - he was a doctor specialising in emrgency medicine so when he became conscious, he started diagnosing himself:
I was really pleased that all the training kicks in automatically. Everyone should do some - where I live in Germany, you have to do the equivalent of a basic first aid course before you can start learning to drive.
Have used both in military and civvy situations. Civvy situation was a colleague with me on a training ride. Front wheel went side from under him and he landed square on his chin. Went unconscious for short period. Did all the shock/recovery stuff and - luckily - he was a doctor specialising in emrgency medicine so when he became conscious, he started diagnosing himself:
'Ib schpilt me soff pallet'
'What?'
'Ib schpilt me soff pallet!'
'Eh?'
'I shed, Ib schpilt me soff pallet, oo deff bashted!'
'Ohhhhhhh, you've split your soft palate!'
'What?'
'Ib schpilt me soff pallet!'
'Eh?'
'I shed, Ib schpilt me soff pallet, oo deff bashted!'
'Ohhhhhhh, you've split your soft palate!'
I was really pleased that all the training kicks in automatically. Everyone should do some - where I live in Germany, you have to do the equivalent of a basic first aid course before you can start learning to drive.
I've just got work to book me onto a 4 day course in June 
to re-certify.
Whilst I was at it I went for the Fire Marshals course at the end of this month again to re-certify but it is all about putting fire out rather than starting it
to re-certify.Whilst I was at it I went for the Fire Marshals course at the end of this month again to re-certify but it is all about putting fire out rather than starting it
First Aider at Work (FAAW) certificate holder and ballistic First Aider. + I have just added De Fib.
Steve
Steve
I used to have AED, fractures 2, medical gases, and ambulance attendant level 1, but sadly they have all run out.
But I am still First Aid Qualified.
Wolves.
But I am still First Aid Qualified.
Wolves.
I reckon any training whether expired or not is better than nothing, I've been out the army for ages but still use and remember training and experiences on a weekly basis but I did finish my final 3 as a battalion and hospital medic.
anyone who did the old style one week first aid at work courses covering penetrating trauma and traumatic amputations would be disgusted at the current one day version which relies on ambulances and mobile phones far too much so its no wonder when people are ringing mountain rescue when they have a blister or wonder why they collapse on the london marathon when they'd been on the beers the night before.
I had an incident the other month where a lad collapsed at work evrybody stood around till somebody called me over to have a look. Half a dozen people then congradulated me on putting in the recovery position, checking airways etc... to which my response was well if you knew what I was doing why did I have to come over here and do it for you?
something else I feel should be taught at schools on a curricular basis
anyone who did the old style one week first aid at work courses covering penetrating trauma and traumatic amputations would be disgusted at the current one day version which relies on ambulances and mobile phones far too much so its no wonder when people are ringing mountain rescue when they have a blister or wonder why they collapse on the london marathon when they'd been on the beers the night before.
I had an incident the other month where a lad collapsed at work evrybody stood around till somebody called me over to have a look. Half a dozen people then congradulated me on putting in the recovery position, checking airways etc... to which my response was well if you knew what I was doing why did I have to come over here and do it for you?
something else I feel should be taught at schools on a curricular basis
I've actually got 2 certificates one from The red cross and One from Lifesigns.
My Red cross cert runs out this month and I''m off to do a refresher within the next few weeks - Work paid for mine
My Red cross cert runs out this month and I''m off to do a refresher within the next few weeks - Work paid for mine
Trained but the certificate has run out, this threads reminded me of this so ill have to sort that asap
use to teach first aid .
so can recall most of it , u need to grasp understanding of what yu are doing .
the ongoing changing of techniques to improve things based on so caled research i am very cynical about as there have been times when an old technque has changed then a few years later brought back in .
it began to seem to me a cynical way of selling new sets of books and courses and keeping the power of certification in the hands of the course providers .
also different providers can teach different techniques whic also confuses the matter esspecially if you are working with a team of people which often you are if you find yourself dealing with an incident and often you may not know the people you are working with what there school of thought is how much they really understood and grasped when trained and all that mixed up with different types of personalitys.
i have known a friend of mine years ago (beach lifeguard very well trained and competent) tell an interfering nurse to fcuk off .
ive seen people hit hard by cars who are clearly breathing and semi concious rolled into recovery positions with no real reason to do so (emergency service very near where this happend - and with no protection of spine or neck - instigated by the more forcefull of personalitys .
as a general rule and i know its cynical these days i will not get involved in ant rescue unless i really have to or i am with a team i know and we know the same stuff and on same page
so can recall most of it , u need to grasp understanding of what yu are doing .
the ongoing changing of techniques to improve things based on so caled research i am very cynical about as there have been times when an old technque has changed then a few years later brought back in .
it began to seem to me a cynical way of selling new sets of books and courses and keeping the power of certification in the hands of the course providers .
also different providers can teach different techniques whic also confuses the matter esspecially if you are working with a team of people which often you are if you find yourself dealing with an incident and often you may not know the people you are working with what there school of thought is how much they really understood and grasped when trained and all that mixed up with different types of personalitys.
i have known a friend of mine years ago (beach lifeguard very well trained and competent) tell an interfering nurse to fcuk off .
ive seen people hit hard by cars who are clearly breathing and semi concious rolled into recovery positions with no real reason to do so (emergency service very near where this happend - and with no protection of spine or neck - instigated by the more forcefull of personalitys .
as a general rule and i know its cynical these days i will not get involved in ant rescue unless i really have to or i am with a team i know and we know the same stuff and on same page
Keep the training simple and practise what you learn at home
DO THE TRAINING
Its better to underestimate your skills and knowledge, rather than be over confident and perhaps harm you or others
DO THE TRAINING
DO THE TRAINING
Its better to underestimate your skills and knowledge, rather than be over confident and perhaps harm you or others
DO THE TRAINING
work pays for my course although i have probably used it more outside of work.it is worth getting trained for the confidence you will gain from it,a lot of people tend to step away when someone gets hurt although may want to help.with a course under your belt you will be able to cope with you own and other peoples first aid dramas.
litefoot.
litefoot.
As I work as private health care provider I have to pay for my own I use the British red cross which fills my needs.and is not to costly
Was in St. Johns Ambulance man and boy(joined on my 9th birthday which at the time, and pre badgers was the earliest I could) but I moved for work and have not joined the local brigade and have let my certification expire.
1) Basic Emergency First Aid
2) CPR
3) Basic First Aid
4) Basic Wilderness First Aid
I'll be going for my advanced Wilderness First Aid and First Responder in the next couple of years.
2) CPR
3) Basic First Aid
4) Basic Wilderness First Aid
I'll be going for my advanced Wilderness First Aid and First Responder in the next couple of years.
Currently sitting my final medical exams, which is why I've logged in here for the first time in ages, I'm doing my best to avoid revision! I've done BLS/ILS and elements of ALS as part of my course and also completed a basic field trauma course with the army.
Couldn't agree more regarding CPR/defib. CPR isn't terribly effective, less so if the person is not up to speed or trained on the current guidelines (they haven't been changed on a whim as they seem to be, there is some sound physiological reasoning behind it!). Getting them to a portable defib/AED is paramount (as a minimum) but getting them to a full A&E is the best option. It is definitely worth getting trained on, but I would pay attention to rescue procedures and extraction techniques if you are going to be in the wild. No use jumping up and down on someone's chest if you can't get higher levels of care to you ASAP, or you to them.
I've done BLS/ILS and elements of ALS as part of my course and also completed a basic field trauma course with the army.Couldn't agree more regarding CPR/defib. CPR isn't terribly effective, less so if the person is not up to speed or trained on the current guidelines (they haven't been changed on a whim as they seem to be, there is some sound physiological reasoning behind it!). Getting them to a portable defib/AED is paramount (as a minimum) but getting them to a full A&E is the best option. It is definitely worth getting trained on, but I would pay attention to rescue procedures and extraction techniques if you are going to be in the wild. No use jumping up and down on someone's chest if you can't get higher levels of care to you ASAP, or you to them.
i am currently basic first aid first aid at work, public order first aid oxygen therapy and defib trained. All these are required for my job and i get refreshed every year.
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