Climate Change & Survival.

Woody girl

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Yesterday, I watched TV for an hour or two, at my friends home. Not something I usualy do, I'd gone up there to help out with a few jobs around the smallholding, before they went off on holiday. Normaly I'd have been out of the house doing stuff, but it was much too hot to do much, I had sweat dripping off my nose, just picking the beans! That is not usual for September.
Watching , I could not believe the amount of natural disasters happening around the world.
Stuff I barely hear about with my trusty radio.

There was 1 comment that realy struck me, this has been the hottest year every recorded since records began over 250 years ago.

I saw pictures of crops destroyed by lack of water and dried up river beds, people queuing for a bucket of water saying they barely had enough to drink, let alone wash.
Because these are images I don't normaly see, and I'm not fed them on an hourly basis, it was realy striking to me.

My local river is fuller than normal this summer, it's knee deep where it is usualy only ankle deep, because we've had such a wet summer.
Last year my local reservoir was half full,
Both things I've never seen in 23 years of living here.

We are in trouble, just because we are not queuing for water, our crops are not fried to a crisp, and things seem relatively OK, doesn't mean we are.

The government put windfarms out to tender, but recieved no bids. As a soundbite on the news, makes it sound that nobody is interested, the truth is, the terms or whatever, were not viable, which is why no bids were recieved. Sorry, I was guilty of not listening at this point, as I had recieved an overload of information, so I didn't take in all the details, but, I could see straight through the gov tactics, it suddenly hit me.
Change the rules so that just one objection will not stop a windfarm, offer contracts for 20 new windfarms, with terms that make them unviaible, so nobody will take them on, and hope those with a tick tick attention span will be convinced they are benign and it's others who are being the problem.
Only a year or so ago we were talking about keeping global warming to 1.5 degrees. And this or that needs to be done by 2050, then it was 2030, now we know we have already reached the 1.5 in only a few years.

Only a few years ago, everyone was taking the p@**out of greta, now suddenly her words are coming out of the mouths of politicians who ridiculed her.

I've been saying for many years it's too late for that. We are now on runaway global warming.

It's such a mess. A good friend of mine agrees with me totaly, and talks of needing to have drastic action to mitigate this problem, runs two cars, and has just gone on their hols, flying abroad for two weeks in the sun. I do know they realy need a break, having worked awful hard for months, but even those that see the problems have some disconnect, and cannot change behavior. It's like people are hypnotised. Such as when you see pictures of people on a beach, just standing and watching as a huge sunami wave rolls towards them, instead of running for their lives.

It realy annoys me, when climate anxiety is pushed as a mental health problem, as if those that worry about it, are the ones who believe in fairies!
Not worrying about it, is what got us here!
 
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ManFriday4

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Yesterday, I watched TV for an hour or two, at my friends home. Not something I usualy do, I'd gone up there to help out with a few jobs around the smallholding, before they went off on holiday. Normaly I'd have been out of the house doing stuff, but it was much too hot to do much, I had sweat dripping off my nose, just picking the beans! That is not usual for September.
Watching , I could not believe the amount of natural disasters happening around the world.
Stuff I barely hear about with my trusty radio.

There was 1 comment that realy struck me, this has been the hottest year every recorded since records began over 250 years ago.

I saw pictures of crops destroyed by lack of water and dried up river beds, people queuing for a bucket of water saying they barely had enough to drink, let alone wash.
Because these are images I don't normaly see, and I'm not fed them on an hourly basis, it was realy striking to me.

My local river is fuller than normal this summer, it's knee deep where it is usualy only ankle deep, because we've had such a wet summer.
Last year my local reservoir was half full,
Both things I've never seen in 23 years of living here.

We are in trouble, just because we are not queuing for water, our crops are not fried to a crisp, and things seem relatively OK, doesn't mean we are.

The government put windfarms out to tender, but recieved no bids. As a soundbite on the news, makes it sound that nobody is interested, the truth is, the terms or whatever, were not viable, which is why no bids were recieved. Sorry, I was guilty of not listening at this point, as I had recieved an overload of information, so I didn't take in all the details, but, I could see straight through the gov tactics, it suddenly hit me.
Change the rules so that just one objection will not stop a windfarm, offer contracts for 20 new windfarms, with terms that make them unviaible, so nobody will take them on, and hope those with a tick tick attention span will be convinced they are benign and it's others who are being the problem.
Only a year or so ago we were talking about keeping global warming to 1.5 degrees. And this or that needs to be done by 2050, then it was 2030, now we know we have already reached the 1.5 in only a few years.

Only a few years ago, everyone was taking the p@**out of greta, now suddenly her words are coming out of the mouths of politicians who ridiculed her.

I've been saying for many years it's too late for that. We are now on runaway global warming.

It's such a mess. A good friend of mine agrees with me totaly, and talks of needing to have drastic action to mitigate this problem, runs two cars, and has just gone on their hols, flying abroad for two weeks in the sun. I do know they realy need a break, having worked awful hard for months, but even those that see the problems have some disconnect, and cannot change behavior. It's like people are hypnotised. Such as when you see pictures of people on a beach, just standing and watching as a huge sunami wave rolls towards them, instead of running for their lives.

It realy annoys me, when climate anxiety is pushed as a mental health problem, as if those that worry about it, are the ones who believe in fairies!
Not worrying about it, is what got us here!
Or its too complicated. It's really sad when people make such a lame.

Considering some of the complicated & bizarre conspiracy theories I see preppers on YouTube going on about & they seem to be parroting that Yaxley-Lenon bloke.
 

Herman30

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I worry zero, nada, nil about cclimate change because thee is nothing I can do about it. It´s beyond my powers as a small human being.
 

reddave

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The climate models that we use only register and log 'Total Solar Irradiance' as natural heat input.
ALL other forms of energy input are attributed to man made input. In this video, from 0 to 3 mins it shows how other, published papers are now showing the erroneous disparity.
So the sun affecting cloud cover on other planets is taken into account to explain significant atmospheric changes, but its not even formulated into earths energy equation
More planetary changes
Mars crustal shift
And now earth follows suit with the latest activity in Morocco having a 6.8 earthquake, which I believe got upgraded to a 7.2 . Lord help them
Are all these planets having man made increases in CO2 levels as well ?
We are being impoverished with a bogus climate plan whilst we are only following what other planets have, and are undergoing
 

reddave

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I'm really sorry admins, I only posted the links to these videos. I don't know how this jamboree happened.
If anyone can get rid of the big bits and leave the links for others to follow, I'd be very appreciative.
Again sorry and if you can alter the post, please do
 
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Toddy

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I'm really sorry admins, I only posted the links to these videos. I don't know how this jamboree happened.
If anyone can get rid of the big bits and leave the links for others to follow, I'd be very appreciative.
Again sorry and if you can alter the post, please do
It's fine, and the links are on here to watch, so no hassle.

I'll shift stuff if you want, but I don't think it's necessary.

M
 

C_Claycomb

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Yeah I get that.
And I presume there is no possibility of discussing how we try to survive it without it degenerating?
I rather doubt it.

There are even fewer Moderators active on the forum than there were in 2019 and folk that get passionate about the subject (any subject) are more than capable of filling two or three pages with mud slinging in between mods checking in on a thread.
 

ManFriday4

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I rather doubt it.

There are even fewer Moderators active on the forum than there were in 2019 and folk that get passionate about the subject (any subject) are more than capable of filling two or three pages with mud slinging in between mods checking in on a thread.
Thank you. I have read thoroughly the many, many, many posts where this occurs (all sorts). I'm sorry it must be so tedious to have to deal with this sort of thing, but I guess that is how it goes on a large forum.

Thank you for taking the time to communicate this & respond to our questions.
 

XSR101

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Very likely to be the warmest year on record. With half the year of data now available, Carbon Brief has determined that there is now an approximately 95% chance that 2024 will beat 2023 and be the warmest year on record, based on Copernicus/ECMWF's ERA5 dataset.24 Jul 2024


Of course it was going to be the hottest on record and it is causing the AMOC to shut down, hence the UKs terrible summer. No one is asking you to believe it.

Anyone noticed the lack of insects?

No?
 
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Chris

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Very likely to be the warmest year on record. With half the year of data now available, Carbon Brief has determined that there is now an approximately 95% chance that 2024 will beat 2023 and be the warmest year on record, based on Copernicus/ECMWF's ERA5 dataset.24 Jul 2024


Of course it was going to be the hottest on record and it is causing the AMOC to shut down, hence the UKs terrible summer. No one is asking you to believe it.

Anyone noticed the lack of insects?

No?

Been loads around here - was just commenting how unusually caked the car windscreen was yesterday, after a few years of hardly anything.
 
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TeeDee

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Very likely to be the warmest year on record. With half the year of data now available, Carbon Brief has determined that there is now an approximately 95% chance that 2024 will beat 2023 and be the warmest year on record, based on Copernicus/ECMWF's ERA5 dataset.24 Jul 2024


Of course it was going to be the hottest on record and it is causing the AMOC to shut down, hence the UKs terrible summer. No one is asking you to believe it.

Anyone noticed the lack of insects?

No?

Klaus Schwab and his henchmen have been corralling them all up into vats to turn into 'meat' patties.

#Gretaapproves.
 

Woody girl

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Anyone noticed the lack of insects?

No?
I've definatly noticed the lack of bees and butterflies in my garden. Only cabbage whites, and those only in the latter part of the summer.
No wasps, no honey bees, which considering there are three hives just down the way seems odd.
I've put up three insect hotels in the garden. Only one has any activity. The butterfly Hotel near the budlia is empty, used to see up to 10 different varieties of butterfly on that bush, and the hotel would over winter several chrysalis, totaly empty last winter, this year looks to be the same. That butterfly encrusted Bush, just by my back door used to be such a joy. I'd sit there for hours watching. Not worth the effort this year. So sad. :(
 
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Falstaff

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The original post was a deliberate intentional click-bait attack designed to create divisive views and division within this otherwise mild community. It follows a familiar format, well known to security services.
The intention of such posters is to create disharmony, acrimony and alarm/reactions. The nominal justification given for this is generally that of "raising awareness of what's going on" & "any discussion is good". Many well -intentioned and caring folk get caught up in this, believe it and repost etc.

But behind this there are many state and state-funded actors supplying and encouraging such upset, misinformation and ill-will any way that they can. Their view is that any disruptive effect of any type is a success.

We all have our own views on these subjects, and discussion on here will not progress or really change that, but can cause personal animosity and division. May I suggest everybody stop posting on this subject, however well -intentioned.
 

slowworm

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The original post was a deliberate intentional click-bait attack designed to create divisive views and division within this otherwise mild community. It follows a familiar format, well known to security services.
From what little I've seen of Le Loup's posts I would have said the opposite was true. A post by someone who lives a more natural life and is more exposed to the changing climate?
 
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slowworm

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Anyone noticed the lack of insects?

Which ones? I was amused that virtually the same day the BBC ran a story about the lack of wasps were were overrun by them and probably had the most wasps for several years.

Plenty of bumbles about and, as a bee keeper, some of my hives have done well.

There does seem to be a lack of butterflies and moths here, but hard to say why. Was it the cold wet spring, dry summer last year or the fact more old pasture around us is being ploughed up and either reseeded with plain grass or grain, new pesticides or somethig else?
 

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