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Not much difference tbh depending where in Germany. I've often seen -25c there.
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2012 bcuk Arctic Expedition
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Have just been talking to Becky at Bushcraft Expeditions about the flight possibilities as originally the details said
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I am guessing the timetables have changed a bit as outward it still looks possible with an overnight in Oslo, the only Norwegian departure I can see from Bardufoss on 10th is at 06:30hr and that gives 4hrs between airports arrival to departure.
Has anyone else found anything different?
Becky did say this is extremely unlikely to go ahead as there are only 3 confirmed bookings, unfortunately the price of the "public" version is simply too much for my son even as an 18th Birthday present (assuming we can find reasonable flights) so do we pay the deposit for this and hope it picks up enough for Woody to feel it is worth doing bearing in mind the other guys are out for the Advanced the following week or resign ourselves to it is just not going to happen.
Peter
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I am guessing the timetables have changed a bit as outward it still looks possible with an overnight in Oslo, the only Norwegian departure I can see from Bardufoss on 10th is at 06:30hr and that gives 4hrs between airports arrival to departure.
Has anyone else found anything different?
Becky did say this is extremely unlikely to go ahead as there are only 3 confirmed bookings, unfortunately the price of the "public" version is simply too much for my son even as an 18th Birthday present (assuming we can find reasonable flights) so do we pay the deposit for this and hope it picks up enough for Woody to feel it is worth doing bearing in mind the other guys are out for the Advanced the following week or resign ourselves to it is just not going to happen.
Peter
If it doesn't go ahead you will get your deposit back.
It is quite possible that there are others out there looking at this and thinking it won't happen because there are not enough names on the list.
If the list gets longer they might join in. We Brits love a queue.
It is quite possible that there are others out there looking at this and thinking it won't happen because there are not enough names on the list.
If the list gets longer they might join in. We Brits love a queue.
All
The following is an official list of all those that have paid their deposits for this expedition and consequently represent the numbers so far:
1. wayland
2. snijd005
3. skaus84
4.Loenja
The following is an official list of all those that have paid their deposits for this expedition and consequently represent the numbers so far:
1. wayland
2. snijd005
3. skaus84
4.Loenja
Hi, Is there places left for this trip, cant see any posts after November, so just wondering. I haven't looked at all the details yet, flights etc, Ive only just become a member but I could be interested. Thanks!
The course needs another 11 places filled if it is to run. I'm interested as are a couple of other people but I'm not going to put a deposit on a course on which the 'organisers' have shown so little committment to running.
I don't think commitment is lacking on their side. You can't expect them to run a course if people don't sign up for it.
I put my deposit down a long time ago even though I don't have a lot of spare money hanging around, I also ring-fenced time and the remaining funds in my accounts.
I'll agree it's been very frustrating to sit on my hands and wait for confirmation that at least the advanced course will run but if the basic doesn't run I'll just transfer the deposit to paying for the advanced course and use the remaining ring-fenced funds to go out there and do something else, either on my own or with others. What is there to lose?
By not showing commitment on our side it is discouraging others to sign up so if we missthis fantastic oportunity we have only ourselves to blame really.
I put my deposit down a long time ago even though I don't have a lot of spare money hanging around, I also ring-fenced time and the remaining funds in my accounts.
I'll agree it's been very frustrating to sit on my hands and wait for confirmation that at least the advanced course will run but if the basic doesn't run I'll just transfer the deposit to paying for the advanced course and use the remaining ring-fenced funds to go out there and do something else, either on my own or with others. What is there to lose?
By not showing commitment on our side it is discouraging others to sign up so if we missthis fantastic oportunity we have only ourselves to blame really.
I've no connection to Woody and his team but I did go on the March 2010 Arctic Exped (And it was awesome).
Been reading the thread with interest and picked up on the comment 'little commitment to running'.....(and only over a deposit for goodness sake!)
Deposits would be returned if the course were cancelled through lack of numbers......check the T&C's
Do not mistake caution for lack of commitment......indeed some might say it is the lack of commitment to a deposit (Which are refundable if the course does not proceed)....that will kill the course getting off the ground in the first place!
Folks who place a deposit are showing their commitment and are unlikely to back out and leave the course numbers short (They need minimum numbers because the margin is so small).
Loads of folks genuinely wanted to go in 2010, in fact it looked like it would over book.....but the numbers dwindled due to various reasons, only those who had made a deposit ended up going (in the main).
But in summary, a modicum of frustration in the process is normal but challenging their commitment, is a tad iffy.......
Been reading the thread with interest and picked up on the comment 'little commitment to running'.....(and only over a deposit for goodness sake!)
Deposits would be returned if the course were cancelled through lack of numbers......check the T&C's
Do not mistake caution for lack of commitment......indeed some might say it is the lack of commitment to a deposit (Which are refundable if the course does not proceed)....that will kill the course getting off the ground in the first place!
Folks who place a deposit are showing their commitment and are unlikely to back out and leave the course numbers short (They need minimum numbers because the margin is so small).
Loads of folks genuinely wanted to go in 2010, in fact it looked like it would over book.....but the numbers dwindled due to various reasons, only those who had made a deposit ended up going (in the main).
But in summary, a modicum of frustration in the process is normal but challenging their commitment, is a tad iffy.......
Advertising a course then doing nothing to publicise or promote the event hardly demonstates a commitment to the course. Why has no effort been made to save the course by advertising on climbing or skiing forums? I'm sure the places could be filled if the providers showed a little creativity and gumption.
It's a course put together specifically for members of this forum, why would it be advertised on other forums?
I have spoken to a couple of other providers who have said they will not even try to compete as the package for THIS FORUM is priced so keenly, the public version is around 3 times the price with relatively minor changes but catered and in all reality BE probably need to fill that, and who can blame them they need to make a living.
This is an opportunity for BCUK members and we really need to make the running on it. Having met Woody he seems to want these courses/exped to succeed but he also has business to run. Bushcraft Expeditions have answered most of my questions quickly both via the office and Ross has personally. For me *personally* the flights etc are a problem as being in term time we have to work with college timetable otherwise there would have been at least one more signed up.
This is an opportunity for BCUK members and we really need to make the running on it. Having met Woody he seems to want these courses/exped to succeed but he also has business to run. Bushcraft Expeditions have answered most of my questions quickly both via the office and Ross has personally. For me *personally* the flights etc are a problem as being in term time we have to work with college timetable otherwise there would have been at least one more signed up.
Personally I have done my best to sell it at every opportunity.
This is a course run at a special price for us.
They run other courses at higher prices but this is a special deal for us.
If anyone needs to show commitment, creativity and gumption it is us.
I've done what I can... How about you.
The thing that's annoyed me is that an interested party asked a question on one of the arctic exped posts but didn't get a reply from the organisers. That is really poor form, very 'second eleven'.
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All
The following is an official list of all those that have paid their deposits for this expedition and consequently represent the numbers so far:
1. wayland
2. snijd005
3. skaus84
4.Loenja
5.imagedude
Merry Christmas Everyone!
The following is an official list of all those that have paid their deposits for this expedition and consequently represent the numbers so far:
1. wayland
2. snijd005
3. skaus84
4.Loenja
5.imagedude
Merry Christmas Everyone!
And best of the season to you all.
The best of Yuletide to you too.....
Hope everyone gets to go on this, you'll never be lost for a discussion topic round the dinner table or camp fire again!!
Thanks Peter for adding the link and apologies if I put the info in the wrong place - I havn't been following this issue until the last day or so
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