US canteen cup vs Crusader Cup

MartinK9

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They were nasty but consider this there was a time before the crusader mug and boil in the bag.. That time involved a plastic 58 pattern mug, rations in tins ( mmmm bacon burgers and baby's head) and the use of 2 mess tins.... if you were an uber ally 'old sweat' you probably had a 44 pattern mug with a rim of black nasty.

You forgot Cheese Possessed :red:
 

littlebiglane

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Never tried the Brit or the US one. I have the Dutch 'slimline' 58 pattern (litre) and a Dutch 44 Pattern Mug and the £7 I spent on both together were well worth it. They'll see me out anyway.....
 

walker

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its the us mug and bottle for me too i have to admit
swapped my crusader and bottle for a book a while ago because it was just sat in the loft doing nothing
i love my us canteen and cup i even have the cover to keep it all neat and tidy packs better aswell
 

Air Pirate

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I have a NATO bottle but no cup to go with it. I end up using the US canteen and cup because I've been able to get my hands on so many free ones over the years.

I've also noticed that Bear Grylls has recently started to use the US version, so you know they're good!
 

Mike8472

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I find myself toen between the two:-

The us version is much lighter but no where near as robust as the crusader cup as it is made of thiner metal. I tend to use my us canteen and cup for day walks.

The crusader is bigger and much tougher and I tend to use it for camping; mainly for cooking on an open fire as I'm not a fan of carrying mess tins around when the cup can do the job and same me carrying too much stuff.

I also have the dutch and 85 pat ones but have to admit their mainly for my collection as I have a thing for military issue canteen kits, I've never used them.
 

PREPER

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Dec 31, 2009
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I've got 5 different types of metal mug ( I know! :twak: ), they are all fit for purpose.
Crusader is the winner for me though!

PREPER.......... :)
 

PREPER

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Dec 31, 2009
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I have a NATO bottle but no cup to go with it. I end up using the US canteen and cup because I've been able to get my hands on so many free ones over the years.

I've also noticed that Bear Grylls has recently started to use the US version, so you know they're good!

Ray used a crusader, enough said.

PREPER............. :)
 

PRKL

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Jan 27, 2010
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Found this thread as ive been in search for steel mug,that would fit over british osprey manufactured field canteen( made 1990,number 973-6665).

So guys where to get one,used perhaps ?
Anyone of u has one spare maybe ?
 
You forgot Cheese Possessed :red:

with Rat pack tinned apricot jam in nasty issue white sliced bread as sandwiches lunch in the go :rolleyes: :D least teh suger in the jam took your mind of teh grit in the cheese wearing at your teeth :eek:

happy days trying to make the sandwiches and not wack your self with the LMG in the back of a Rover while the driver tryed to hit every rut and pot hole at speed crossing a ploughed field :rolleyes:
ATB

Duncan
 

rik_uk3

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I have a NATO bottle but no cup to go with it. I end up using the US canteen and cup because I've been able to get my hands on so many free ones over the years.

I've also noticed that Bear Grylls has recently started to use the US version, so you know they're good!

The US mugs are good but please don't associate them with Bear Grylls or the mugs will loose all credibility ;)

I've got one of the old long handled ones, good mug.
 

Agile

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Dec 27, 2006
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More 85 Pattern 'Mug shots'

Arrh they dont makem like they used to thankfully.....

I still use one of those as my only mug/bottle combo.

The plastic wrap is totally useless and the "non stick" style coating is just that - non stick in style, not function.

The worst bit is, the darn thing won't break so I can get a new one - so I've dragged that pile of... around for the past six years!
 

walker

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hi just mated my well loved gi cup with a new red nalgene oasis canteen
i think its a brillient combo all nests together very good and dosent look too military being bright red
carnt get the same combo with the 58 pat
love the military simple is simple does but love the hiking mordern looks
 

faca

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should be a good bussines to make these two cups in titanium??
I like them but there are very heavy compared to actual titanium mugs
 

Nat

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should be a good bussines to make these two cups in titanium??
I like them but there are very heavy compared to actual titanium mugs


They're also bigger and designed to take a rat pack meal or two aswell.
Working titanium is a pain in the backside even if it is a Gucci metal :pokenest:
 

Gill

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Arrh they dont makem like they used to thankfully.....

On the subject of these mugs i have and use one ,however the plastic rim is split ,anbody know where to get them spare?
 

maddave

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I have a US pattern that lives in my camp box. I prefer the crusader for volume only.. The US mug is every bit as good in every other sense.
 

walker

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dont know about everyone else but i have a austrian steel cup shaped similer to crusader but a tad smaller and has a usa style fold under handle so no rattle from the handles
 

MartinK9

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always go light weight and just cut out the 2" bit you drink from was all the rage when they came out or a bit of black n nasty tape

teh crusader ones fir the Charity plastic wrist bands these might do on this one to

ATB


Duncan

Ah, beware the mould of death below:yuck::lmao::lmao:
 

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