Tribe

[Rob]

What side was it on guys? And when?

 

[Gary]

I also found the split between the Christain beliefs of the younger members and the traditional beliefs of the older generation interesting - it didn't seem to create much conflict within the group. Maybe the traditional beliefs will eventually die out?

Fraser that was interesting as it was almost an exact copy of how our ancestors became christian - sadly I think the ADI (like us) will lose their old religion eventually though.

 

[Realgar]

Well like he said, the Adi are doing all this on their own terms rather than having it forced on them because their homeland has been cut down.

Their attitude to the cattle suprised me, I mean the Masi use them as a living currency too ut it doesn't stop them using their milk and slaughtering them for food on a regular basis.

Realgar

 

[jamesdevine]

I recorded and got to watch it last night. Absolutly brillant :biggthump .

I am looking forward to the rest in the series.

James

 

[shinobi]

I recorded and got to watch it last night. Absolutly brillant :biggthump .

Hiya James,

I don't suppose there would be any chance of borrowing it after you've watched it is there?

I was at work unfortunately and only saw the last few minutes. I'll quite happily bung you a couple of quid to cover post and packing.
PM me if this will be ok.

Cheers,

Martin

 

[jamesdevine]

I might be able to sort something out but as I am in Dublin it might easier and quicker if one of the guys on the 'mainland' has it on tape. If you haveno luck by tomorrow I'll but it on a new tape and send over to you.

James :wave:

 

[shinobi]

it might easier and quicker if one of the guys on the 'mainland' has it on tape.

Well? Did anyone else tape it? Does anyone want to start a pass-around for this programme?

Cheers,

Martin

 

[al]

just out of interest http://pws.prserv.net/endeavour/bruce.htm i worked with him a few times when i was a royal marine ,he always came across as a good man,liked to have fun too, cheers

 

[Gary]

For those who arent aware - episode 2 is on tonight 2100hrs on Blairs Broadcasting Channel (or BBC to the less cynical) 2

 

[Kim]

Genius! What an extraordinary episode. What I like about this guy is that he doesn't try to interpret anything, doesn't get too philosophical or analyitical about any of it, he simply comments on the experiences he's having, and is honest about them. He reacts like a lot of us would...by saying, that's disgusting, or that's amazing.

I will never view a stick in quite the same way. I would like to have known what it was made out of, because they didn't appear to snap when making contact with somebody's head!

I also wanted to know how they killed the goat because they didn't show that bit very clearly. I was sat in front of my tv just going...wow...for an hour...the bleeding cows thing...amazing...the lips...THE TATOOING...

good on Mr Parry for having a go. :super:

 

[tenbears10]

Kim I think the goat was disoatched with just a spear, either just sharpened wood or with a metal point. Very skillful to get it right like they did.

I was impressed by the whole episode as well, I missed last weeks but I will make sure I catch the rest.

Bil

 

[Moonraker]

Very well put together programmes and absorbing to watch. Parry is a natural presenter and gets his enthusiasm across really well because of that.

The story of the Suri was compelling and vivid. As Kim says, it is the fact he just says what anyone would say and without any pretence that makes it. Sometimes I felt he was too cheerful But it showed how important humour and a good nature are to communicate with others and engaging in their life won him their respect.

The stick fighting was amazing and the creeping modernity with the AK 47's now changing their lives was depressing but it reminded me that they are 'doing it for real' and out of necessity. As long as we continue our commercialised ways we can not expect those who live a primitive life style ( in that I use the term to mean closer to nature and tradition than 'simple') to be seduced into the same path.

The most poignant moment for me was right at the end, where their 'king'/ village elder hed his hand and spoke simply about us all having '10 fingers, 2 eyes 2 legs' and us all being the same under the colour of our skin and the way we live.

And especially when he said 'Remember Me'.............

I think when he said that, he also meant 'Remember Us', as he saw the changes coming.

 

[Scally]

The most poignant moment for me was right at the end, where their 'king'/ village elder hed his hand and spoke simply about us all having '10 fingers, 2 eyes 2 legs' and us all being the same under the colour of our skin and the way we live.
can i just echo what Moonraker said above in the last post (Lump in throat when he said those words a very wise Goodbye no other way to sum it up in my eyes)

 

[bambodoggy]

The most poignant moment for me was right at the end, where their 'king'/ village elder hed his hand and spoke simply about us all having '10 fingers, 2 eyes 2 legs' and us all being the same under the colour of our skin and the way we live.

I very much enjoyed the show last night and when the elder spoke at the end I was reminded of the words to a Bob Marley song "The colour of a mans skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes"..... I've always tried to live my life with this thought in mind.

The goat killing was very impressive (if you can call killing impressive), it seemed to me to be a primative relative of the bolt gun.....one hit, bang, straight down and all over....no messing, no hassle and relatively little stress to the animal.

Sad to see the guns seeping in but I fail to see how this can be stopped and wonder if it's right that I feel is should be stopped. Is it for the sake of the tribe or just because I still want primative peoples to stay primative for my own romantic visions....

I was also very impressed with the idea of bleeding the cow's monthly, it wouldn't have occured to me to do this and I did wonder about the merits of it until Parry explained that doing it meant they didn't have to kill and butcher the cow to make use of them.....to me it's the ultimate efficiency. Not pleasant but the cows really didn't look too bothered (again, relatively).

The show is great but I have to say I think the presenter makes it for me....what a top bloke!

Looking forward to next weeks show already ):

 

[tenbears10]

I was also very impressed with the idea of bleeding the cow's monthly, it wouldn't have occurred to me to do this and I did wonder about the merits of it until Parry explained that doing it meant they didn't have to kill and butcher the cow to make use of them.....to me it's the ultimate efficiency. Not pleasant but the cows really didn't look too bothered (again, relatively).

It is also a constant source of fresh sustenance. If you slaughter something in that environment I bet you have to eat it quickly or have a decent method of preserving the meat otherwise it will go off very fast in that heat.

Bill

 

[Moonraker]

It is also a constant source of fresh sustenance. If you slaughter something in that environment I bet you have to eat it quickly or have a decent method of preserving the meat otherwise it will go off very fast in that heat.

Bill

I know what I would be using that blood for rather than gagging on it fresh

Although, the Masai have low cholesterol mainly due to the way they prepare their milk and blood ( mixed together raw, a bit of cow dung added for 'spice' and left to ferment in a bladder for a week or so). I think that is what the guy on the recent RM series was eating. Apparently it is supposed to be good eating, tasting like a firm smoky yoghourt!

 

[falling rain]

I watched last nights programme too and it was again excellent. You can't HELP but like the bloke. He gets stuck into to everything and was even going to have a go at the stick fighting until the Chief forbid it, which on watching those guys with the sticks was a good decision. They wern't playing, they were really going for it big wiggy style. As for the Goat despatching, it was very immpressive and quick. One of RM's programmes shows the Evenk despatching a Reindeer in a very similar fashion, very quick and humane and the animal dropped straight down dead. I think he's in Borneo or somewhere near that area next week. I'll definately be watching it.
If anyone wants to watch it I've got the first 2 programmes on tape as I have to record it because I'm always out Monday nights. I,m happy to do a pass round as long as I get it back eventually. :wave:

 

[shinobi]

If anyone wants to watch it I've got the first 2 programmes on tape as I have to record it because I'm always out Monday nights. I,m happy to do a pass round as long as I get it back eventually. :wave:

Yes please. I missed the first one because I was at work.
What's best, do you want to do a passround when the series is finished with them all on. Or are you happy to pass the tape around now?

Martin

 

[falling rain]

I can pass the first 2 episodes round now as I won't fit another episode onto the tape (the first bit of the tape has got something different on it, not sure what though)and will start a new tape for next weeks episode. PM me your address Shinobi and I'll get it off to you. :wave:

 

[jakunen]

Put me down for it afterwards please...