moderation

[humblebumble]

well, i'm new here right. but i've been on an off the internet and various forums since 1995

and i swore myself off chatrooms for a long time because none of them were any use and just provided a forum for people to have pointless arguments that quickly degenerate into flaming and abuse.

i originally posted here a few weeks ago to find out about preparing vegetable fibres for spinning. i could have been asking about fire making, or what kind of tent to get, or thow to sharpen a knife. the point is that i was rapidly responded with many many helpful people sharing their knowledge freely. and i'm sure whatever i had asked how to do i would have got the same response.

so i stayed, and i like it here.

that's what this forum is for, learning new skills and sharing our shared love of the natural world. i don't care whether you're an anarchist, socialist, labour voter or tory, if you can appreciate the beauty of a temperate forest in spring and understand the world is to be experienced, loved and protected then you're alright by me.*

politics is meaningless next to the beauty of existence

-andrew

 

[Black Sheep]

Here, Here

I agree with your every word. Its nice to be part of friendly on line group, I've found so much info and had so much useful advice and help from the members on here. :You_Rock_

Regard

Richard

 

[MartinK9]

You wait till you get to a Meet, people you have never met go out of the way to help you as well.

 

[humblebumble]

and so on

 

[dogwood]

I couldn't agree more. The mods here do a great job and we owe them a debt of thanks.

 

[Draven]

I couldn't agree more. The mods here do a great job and we owe them a debt of thanks.

Ditto, the mods are great here. I've been a member of other forums where there were plenty of very knowledgeable people but virtually no moderation, and hundreds of members only posting in the off topic forum and only posting at all to cause trouble or inflate their ego - I'd hate to see BCUK become like that.

Kudos to y'all, I'd happily buy every one of you a pint.

Pete

 

[Barn Owl]

It's not easy being a moderator here or on the street.

Sometimes you can see where a subject might go and deterioate,fast.

Everyone must remember that this is a public forum and that some things don't come over well on line.

It's differrent around the real camp fire where we can 'debate' to our hearts content.

I support the mods on here as i do on the other sites i visit.
Maybe sometimes I disagree with their moderation but that would be down to my personal views blinkering the overall situation.

Remember anyone can visit on here, I'd hate to think we were seen as being childish or churlish.

Perhaps if a subject appears emotive it should be discussed privately in the full members forum outwith public access.

Now,where did I see that light?....

 

[jojo]

I couldn't agree more. The mods here do a great job and we owe them a debt of thanks.

I agree with this too. I know its not seen as very PC these days to give somebody a slap when they misbehaved (never did me any harm when I was a misbehaving kid, except to my ego ) but it achieves fairly quickly what lots of nice words don't. I like this forum, it's kept clean and it follows its purpose.

The mods deserve browny points for this. Thank you :You_Rock_

 

[John Fenna]

I have left 2 forums that had lax moderation - I hated the way that nearly all the threads decended into boasting about booze consumption (nowt wrong with a drop in itself...) and plain filth.
Her I find it al very friendly with the Mods doing a great job (most of the time....)

 

[gregorach]

I quite agree. The mods here do a great job under frequently difficult circumstances. I've modded other fora in the past, and I know how difficult it can be to get right sometimes.

 

[Prawnster]

Obviously a lot of work goes into moderating and I don't think I would ever have the time or the inclination to do it. I enjoy this site even though I don't post much but I can't help applying a football cliche to the moderators.

You know the referee has had a good game when you haven't noticed him.

I think mods should take a step back from certain debates unless thay have something specific to add to it. Voicing personal opinion only leads to trouble I believe. You wouldn't see a referee taking sides in an argument amongst players would you?

A member being banned or suspended after a heated debate that involved a moderator only harms the reputation of the moderator in my opinion.

 

[locum76]

hats off to the OP for some unsolicited positivity.

 

[Wayland]

Obviously a lot of work goes into moderating and I don't think I would ever have the time or the inclination to do it. I enjoy this site even though I don't post much but I can't help applying a football cliche to the moderators.

You know the referee has had a good game when you haven't noticed him.

I think mods should take a step back from certain debates unless thay have something specific to add to it. Voicing personal opinion only leads to trouble I believe. You wouldn't see a referee taking sides in an argument amongst players would you?

A member being banned or suspended after a heated debate that involved a moderator only harms the reputation of the moderator in my opinion.

Where do you think the moderators come from?

They are members first and foremost with as much right to air an opinion as anybody else.

The problem is that some people take that opinion as some kind of attack from "the establishment" and get all sniffy about it.

That's their problem, not the mods.

Manners maketh the man, or woman for that matter.

 

[Prawnster]

Where do you think the moderators come from?

They are members first and foremost with as much right to air an opinion as anybody else.

The problem is that some people take that opinion as some kind of attack from "the establishment" and get all sniffy about it.

That's their problem, not the mods.

Manners maketh the man, or woman for that matter.

Look, obviously there is a fine line to be walked here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when opinions are enforced then people will feel that the establishment really is attacking them.

Perhaps more discernment should be exercised as to whether a mod should take a back seat and just moderate certain (not all) threads rather than contribute to what is already a heated debate.

Some consistency too, please. Everyone was crying TEOTWAWKI on the other chatter section whilst there was a bug out bag thread on the bushcraft section!

 

[Draven]

Some consistency too, please. Everyone was crying TEOTWAWKI on the other chatter section whilst there was a bug out bag thread on the bushcraft section!

I fail to see how repeatedly posting dramatised "information" about the pandemic we're all about to die from and blaming it on the government is quite the same as discussing bug out bags. Discussing survival doesn't equate to being a survivalist, and being a survivalist doesn't even necessarily make you a conspiracy theorist.

 

[sapper1]

Toddy perhaps you should state clearly at the beginning of each of your posts in any thread wether you are participating and passing comment as a mod or a member.Thia way other members will know where they stand.In the removed threads you started of as a member but at some point became a mod I couldn't see where you changed.Perhaps if you had made it clear that you had swapped sides (as it were) then a lot of this could have been avoided.
I disagree very strongly with the abuse you had to endure later,If there was a personal problem then perhaps the person should have used the PM system or put his name to his abuse.There is a bad taste left when someone gives verbal abuse but will not identify themselves.

 

[Prawnster]

I fail to see how repeatedly posting dramatised "information" about the pandemic we're all about to die from and blaming it on the government is quite the same as discussing bug out bags. Discussing survival doesn't equate to being a survivalist, and being a survivalist doesn't even necessarily make you a conspiracy theorist.

My point is that what some people saw as an end of the world thread was being discussed on the other chatter section. If you look to the top of this page it says "A place to sit back and just chat about stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else." So that is where HillBill posted the very current news story for discussion because it didn't fit in the bushcraft section.

 

[BorderReiver]

My point is that what some people saw as an end of the world thread was being discussed on the other chatter section. If you look to the top of this page it says "A place to sit back and just chat about stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else." So that is where HillBill posted the very current news story for discussion because it didn't fit in the bushcraft section.

With links to very dubious "news" sites and hints of all sorts of conspiracy against the people.

He was told that he was out of order but persisted.

The Mods did their usual excellent job and that particular infection has been eradicated.

There is no point in picking at the scabs, it does no good at all.

 

[Draven]

My point is that what some people saw as an end of the world thread was being discussed on the other chatter section. If you look to the top of this page it says "A place to sit back and just chat about stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else." So that is where HillBill posted the very current news story for discussion because it didn't fit in the bushcraft section.

Yeah, but you could argue that about virtually any topic. Some are friendly enough, and would get left. Some might not necessarily be unfriendly by the original poster, but have a real potential to turn out that way. Or it could be that it's reporting on a potentially very bad scenario, which may or may not unfold, and innaccurate information is exceedingly unhelpful. That particular scenario is all over the papers and the news right now, a thread about it on a bushcraft forum just doesn't need to be bumped every 20 minutes with a new death toll or a comment about how a disease has gone missing from a military base.

Sorry to mods for bringing the same arguments into this thread, please do edit or remove my comments if it's seen to be more productive.

Pete

 

[gregorach]

My point is that what some people saw as an end of the world thread was being discussed on the other chatter section. If you look to the top of this page it says "A place to sit back and just chat about stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else." So that is where HillBill posted the very current news story for discussion because it didn't fit in the bushcraft section.

Yeah, but you're still at the online equivalent of a private party. If you get a bit carried away and the hosts ask you to chill out a bit because you're upsetting or annoying the other guests, howling about it just makes you look like a ******.

You do not have an unlimited right to say or do anything you like here, no matter what the forum description may say. This is not your own home - we're all guests here. Show some manners.