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Jokkmokk - Sub Zero Trip - February 2013

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Cheers Cliff ;) Sorry to have worried you :o


DUCky said:
I assume you will be taking two portable trees with you to ensure a place to 'hang' ;)

Do you promise to try and keep your clothes on this time? :o
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Oh yes, Leki trees are coming. I can't promise a streak free arctic trip, I'm just too damned hot to keep myself from the world! :cool:

Pants of shame are not coming though, nor quinzee toilet paper...
 
Without going into too much detail, us "wild campers" are still planning and lots of ideas are being mooted about tents, tarps materials, camp setups etc. We have solid experience in sub arctic conditions and won't be cutting too many corners, but without adventure you may as well book into the Jokkmokk Hilton. Every plan has redundancy built in, it's just not mentioned because it's "common sense" (yep some of us still use it, even though it's being legislated from under us)
 
Imagedude said:
Whatever shelter you choose, make sure it can withstand 8" of snow or you'll get a rude awakening in the night. I use an extra pole to stiffen my wee tent.

There's a nice piece about tarping in winter in Finland in the link below

http://hikinginfinland.com/2010/06/gossamer-gear-spinntwinn-review-video.html

His website has many good articles about winter camping.

http://hikinginfinland.com
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It's usually me shaking the tree :D. However one thing I'm short on is deadmen. I must make a couple of small (6-8in) ones. I have an old ally road sign in the shed which will do nicely. My snow shovel will double as another if needed. That chaps website has some good info as well. Thanks for the link.
 
Imagedude said:
Whatever shelter you choose, make sure it can withstand 8" of snow or you'll get a rude awakening in the night. I use an extra pole to stiffen my wee tent.

There's a nice piece about tarping in winter in Finland in the link below

http://hikinginfinland.com/2010/06/gossamer-gear-spinntwinn-review-video.html

His website has many good articles about winter camping.

http://hikinginfinland.com
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A good site that, cheers Bob.

Could you post a link to some gloves you mentioned a while ago please? They looked just the ticket. I think you mentioned they were popular with ice climbers, made for industrial freezer work or simlilar.
 
The gloves were probably 'SKYTECH ARGON THERMAL GLOVES' or similar.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Pair-Sk...OI_ProtectiveGear_RL&var=&hash=item256a31f40d



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maddave said:
It's usually me shaking the tree :D. However one thing I'm short on is deadmen. I must make a couple of small (6-8in) ones. I have an old ally road sign in the shed which will do nicely. My snow shovel will double as another if needed. That chaps website has some good info as well. Thanks for the link.
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I just tend to lash onto a stick and bury it in the snow for shelter dead men.
 
An alternative idea if you have a collapsable bucket, fill it full of water. Try a bit of stick to a bit of paracord, and sink in the water put a loop the other end, and suspend out of the water with another twig.. depending how cold it is you end up with a block of ice with a loop sticking out of it, and at 1KG per litre, quite heavy as well, bury it under the snow.. works where no suitable logs can be found. same idea can be used with a dry sack filled with water, but not to full!
we used to use this to hold down the tarps on the vehicles, if we were out on open tundra
 
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I have 6 of those bags/snow anchors in my kit always. Only weighs about 30 grams so it is no trouble. It was a great help last trip when we were camping by the lake in the snow with plenty of fresh snow and a bit of wind. Needs a shovel to dig them out sometimes though especially if the snow has gotten moist.

We are not going on a picnic but with common sense, regular buddy or self checks (for signs of frostbite) and good sleeping kit, we will manage. I am looking forward to it :)
 
Maps. Anyone bought one of these yet:

http://www.kartbutiken.se/kartbutik...artan_-_Vikt/268_Jokkmokk_oversiktskartan.ecp

This is one of the handful of 1:250,000 Översiktskartan covering the whole country. There are also a series of 1:12,500 Fastighetskartan, but I've not been able to identify which ones might interest us. They have some pretty fancy websites, but they break google translate so I'm struggling. See http://www.kartbutiken.se/, under Lantmäteriets kartor.

Stanfords don't seem to carry any of these, they just have tourist maps.
 
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