In a way it's not. A group of dogs can kill humans while feral cats can't. (Not considering death by disease)
I'm upset and angry and I need to rant!
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In a way it's not. A group of dogs can kill humans while feral cats can't. (Not considering death by disease)
You never met Oscar, my fathers pedigree Persian. He was given him after he cornered ( the cat not my father) two adult male members of the previous owners household, they were scared to move for hours.
Terrible to hear, iv also heard reports of people putting metal nails inside sausages in leaving them in parks for dogs to find, horrible animal cruelty really rials me
That says more about the adult male household owners than the about that cat! There aren't any recorded cases of people dying from domestic cats, are there?
Your right it does, my father and I had no problems with him bar once. He got hold of a roast chicken cooling on the counter and "didn't want to give it up" I did have to think what I was doing as he could be fast and furious.
Do you sweep your garden for bird **** before you let your kids out? Fox? Badger? Hedgehog? Or are you a just cat hater?
Get real.
Nobody else owns and should therefore be held responsible for those animals. I dont hate cats. Just irresponsible cat owners.
Is it ok for your cat to crap in my garden?
Yes. I have no idea where my cat craps. My neighbour's cat craps in my garden. So what?
In another post you said cats should be phased out and people banned from breeding them. You ARE a cat hater, simple as that.
You are clearly annoyed that the law recognises a cat's "propensity to wander" and that there is nothing you can legally do about cats crapping where they want to.
round two 
As far as I'm concerned, "country folk" can shoot whatever the hell they like, so long as it is legal.
Cats have a natural propensity to wander, and this is recognised in law. There is nothing irresponsible about complying with all the laws regarding pet ownership.
Incidentally, if you ran over my cat in your car you are perfectly entitled to carry on driving. If I hit your dog I must stop. Again, it's about following the law.
Mountainm's position is clearly untenable as he is insisting that cat owners go above and beyond what is legally required of them.
Cats have a natural propensity to wander, and this is recognised in law. There is nothing irresponsible about complying with all the laws regarding pet ownership.
Incidentally, if you ran over my cat in your car you are perfectly entitled to carry on driving. If I hit your dog I must stop. Again, it's about following the law.
Mountainm's position is clearly untenable as he is insisting that cat owners go above and beyond what is legally required of them.
Sometimes our law doesn't make for great logic. I think a pinch of salt and commons ence should be written in to satisfy those of us who have an opinion on the matter at hand.
I remember seeing a sign when I was a lad saying any dogs found on land would be shot, and this is a legal right in place to stop dogs attacking or harrassing live stock. It's fiar, your dog should not be chasing cattle.
When a dog kills a neighbours rabbit (I know of a case like this), the dog had an 'asbo' placed on it and a legal requirement to have his balls removed. But cats still prowl my garden, and I've had 2 rabbits and a piggie go missing. My guess is the cats didn't help (as with their owners) but also a natural predator like a fox or bird of prey had a pop too.
I remember seeing a sign when I was a lad saying any dogs found on land would be shot, and this is a legal right in place to stop dogs attacking or harrassing live stock. It's fiar, your dog should not be chasing cattle.
When a dog kills a neighbours rabbit (I know of a case like this), the dog had an 'asbo' placed on it and a legal requirement to have his balls removed. But cats still prowl my garden, and I've had 2 rabbits and a piggie go missing. My guess is the cats didn't help (as with their owners) but also a natural predator like a fox or bird of prey had a pop too.
So let me get this straight:
-The law recognizes your cat's predatory by nature and allows you to let it roam free.
-The law allows country folk (Farmers, et al) to shoot animals harassing their livestock (your cat chasing/killing his chicks, rabbits, etc)
-So in this hypothetical scenario, you've both complied with legal requirements yet your beloved pet is still dead
As far as I can see it, said farmer was acting responsibly in protecting his animals whereas you let yours unnecessarily die while killing other s' animals. Hardly the definition of "responsible" is it?
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that's logical, but cats do not come into this law. You cannoy kill a cat legally when it kills your live stock. They are beyond the law, and that is why people poison them.
The frustration of this is strong, and why 'normal' people resort to this sort of cruelty. If the law was equal to all beasts then there wouldn't be this ammount of confusion and upset, but it isn't. The norn is to let your cat out and do whatever, and expect it in when food is down. But in thw mean time the owners of these cats doo not understand the degree of annoyance their unruley pets inflict on others.
I do like cats. But I dispise the nature of the common owner of cats. My dear american friend has demonstrated his cat can live indoors happily, without being de-clawed or hypnotised but played with and treated well. he adores his pet and it serves him as a company and entertainment and is infact his 'service animal'. When he started letting his cat out it dissapeared for 3 days, returning starved and dehydrated. I must have got locked ina storage unit over the weekened but it has taught him to keep a very close eye on his pet. As should all of us.
That's pretty much the norm here too Samon. Except we are allowed to shoot them in the given scenario. And I like cats too.
Not enough room here to get started on feral cats.
Not enough room here to get started on feral cats.
Being legal and being responsible are not the same thing. Good manners, civic responsibility and morality aren't enforced by law.
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