Might be worth mentioning that lily poisoning can cause renal failure in cats. All parts of the lily are toxic to cats, even if they get pollen on their fur and then clean themselves.
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Yes I am aware of the toxicity of lilies to cats.
Is this the time of year for them to be flowering?
Is this the time of year for them to be flowering?
I don't want to turn this into a dogs vs cats thing but what about the tons of dog mess on pavements, verges, parks that is clearly done whilst the owner knows exactly where the animal is?
If the owner can't be bothered to pick up waste left in a public space then dogs should not be pets either?
I completely take the points about cats and gardens; the anger/frustration is one thing. Setting out to poison an animal is another.
It is a depressing thread; sorry folks.
TurboGirl
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I thought they can get a taste for it and I've known a couple killed by an unfortunate preference for a winter snoze on a warm landy engine... is it possible they are seeking the sweetness and its not a deliberate poisoning but long term ingestion?
I've stopped sharing the animal cruelty scares on facebook... for every animal saved by a warning, eg nailed sausages, there might be some sick basteward who might be prompted to try it :S
I've stopped sharing the animal cruelty scares on facebook... for every animal saved by a warning, eg nailed sausages, there might be some sick basteward who might be prompted to try it :S
I agree completely it's about responsible pet owners knowing where there pets are and cleaning up after them. Dog owners should be responsible too - but if you let your cat roam over the neighbourhood how can you claim you're responsible for it?
Anyhow - animal cruelty is wrong and I'm in know way condoning it. However. If you know where the cat is this wouldn't happen.
Easy to say but how would you go about it? Slaughter all cats who are not kept indoors? Ban cats as pets so we would have millions of feral animals wandering doing even more of the things you don't like?
Don't want to hijack this thread, but other things we do that have consequences for others have been banned, drink driving, smoking indoors, dangerous breeds, building house extensions willy nilly lists go on and on.
At one time they WERE acceptable, but no longer.
At one time they WERE acceptable, but no longer.
As we've already agreed - They don't make good pets as an owner cannot control them without being cruel.
Leading to the animal trespassing, defecating and urinating on other peoples property. Destruction of property and destruction of wildlife including songbirds, amphibians, mammals and reptiles.
Elen Sentier
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Using that logic.... people should be kept indoors also
Sickening to hear about the poisoning. We have cats, and i would be on the warpath if that happened to one of ours.
+1 to that, Mark. It's shocking how people don't care about what is not human. Poisoning an animal is rarely nice.
BTW I have 2 cats and a host of wildlife in the garden, the BTO is regularly impressed with the numbers and varieties of species we have. All my cats, and I've had lots over 60 years, are taught that rats, mice, bunnies (wild ones) are "good" but that birds are "not good". Despite the cries of "rubbish" I can hear in the ethers it does work! Like badly behaved children are the result of bad parents so are "bad" dogs and cats!
Sounds like you're the exception not the rule. If you know where it is at all times to the point you could go get it when asked (at any time) then I'm happy as long as it has permission to be there.
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So how do you get a cat to be selective about it's kills when it's in somebody elses garden?
Apologies to Stringmaker for Hijacking this thread - and my Sympathy for his friend.
As an explanation - It's got to the point where Cats are a very emotive issue for me down to the amount of scat I have to pick up in the garden. I struggle with the concept of feeling it's OK to buy a pet then not know where it is or what it's doing, even where it's doings are. I find it quite selfish and struggle to understand why other people think it's OK - hence I get het up about it. I get even more annoyed when people suggest I should fork out on spending money to try and keep domestic cats off my own land. These cats have owners - the responsibility (and therefore expense) should lie with them.
As an explanation - It's got to the point where Cats are a very emotive issue for me down to the amount of scat I have to pick up in the garden. I struggle with the concept of feeling it's OK to buy a pet then not know where it is or what it's doing, even where it's doings are. I find it quite selfish and struggle to understand why other people think it's OK - hence I get het up about it. I get even more annoyed when people suggest I should fork out on spending money to try and keep domestic cats off my own land. These cats have owners - the responsibility (and therefore expense) should lie with them.
we all know your feelings on cats VERY well by now............do us all a favour and change the record, this one's got boring.
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