HEXAMINE. PLEASE READ!

[Rob.L.]

Thank you all for your comments and contributions on this matter.
Apologies if the information has not seemed clear to some or provoked mistrust.

As another contributor has pointed out, there is a high possibility of ever greater scrutiny regarding chemicals, in fact you can guarantee that.

The risk for the bushcrafter is that in the event of aggravated contact with the police and/or a subsequent search of your home or vehicle, any controlled substances found could easily put you in deeper water than at first. As with firearms your average rank and file officer will know nothing about the law and most likely 'push the panic button'.
There are many substances that are used by a significant number of people in this community and I know there are some with considerable quantities of some of these.
I think the Home Office's stance on not licencing bonafide users of hexamine is a very counterproductive move but my opinion counts for little so it's a like it or lump it situation.

I encourage anyone to keep abreast of changes in this whole area and make their own choices.

Best Regards.
Rob. L.

 

[TLM]

Provided a genuine firm has a genuine industrial need for something and traceable stock control they will not have a problem getting it/a licence. The governmental intention is to prevent it getting into the retail domestic market.

I quite agree with the first part but somewhat disagree with the second they are not trying to keep it from ordinary trekker who wants her tea warm but from terrorists, wannabe and others.

I know there are neutralizing solutions that work on both acid/base cases, don't know much more about them.

 

[Falstaff]

As Rob L elegantly describes it, we do not want to be caught in un-intended cracks in the policy.
The retail domestic market is where terrorists, wannabe and others try to do their shopping posing as legit consumers, and are indistinguishable from you and I
- e.g. the deluded Reading couple who made and then tested explosives in their own back garden! Also the Glasgow airport attack guys buying lightweight ally gas canisters allegedly for barbecues - noticed how the sale of those has tightened up now? And the smaller caravan gas bottles are being withdrawn from sale - a favourite for Middle East bombs (and the Boston Marathon I think).

In the absence of knowing what corrosive substance has been used the best first response is to try to dilute/wash off with copious water. I carry a 5ltr container of drinking water in the transport pretty much all the time, suprising how often it has come in useful, but not for that.

 

[Chris]

And so our rights continue to be eroded in the name of 'fighting terrorism' or 'protecting children' or whichever else emotive point is convenient to use at the time... lovely stuff.

 

[Moondog55]

So what are the reliable cheap options in the UK now?
Are you all going to start or keep using catfood stoves ?
Are branded Esbit tablets part of the ban even tho those are a bit different to army hexamine?

 

[TLM]

Copied from Esbit safety data sheet:

"... Keep away from sources of ignition - Do not smoke.
Eating, drinking, smoking, as well as food-storage ..."

So in absolutely no case should it be used for warming water for tea.

 

[Moondog55]

I must be dead then.
Personally I think that the Esbit tablets are too small but I used them back in the 60's and Hexie from the time I was 17 as a CMF grunt and while they stink a bit they do work to make a brew.
What stops me from using them now [ because freely available here] is the cost; they now cost more than canister gas for the same heat output.
But in the bushcraft setting I have used them mainly for firelighting when the wood is wet, and a candle stub is almost as good if a little harder to get to light.
However I have used a couple of hexie tablets one time as an emergency heat source, using the army American style canteen stove and my army kidney cup to brew up as an anti-hypothermia aid on one particular day walk when I found that the hut I was headed to had been vandalised and the huts wood stove was not usable
I am guessing that the idiots we voted in are going to see what little reaction there is in the UK to this type of legislation and follow on, a shame really as the tablets do have their uses.

 

[Laurentius]

I suppose eventually the supply will dry up. Best thing to do is either use up what you have, or keep a couple of blocks for a dire emergency. How long before Fire Dragon is banned because some folks are using it to make squeeze?

 

[Tengu]

Go Outdoors still sell it

 

[walker]

Checked the internet today , yep still on sale readily

 

[malcolmc]

Hi all,
I've been away for a while and only just found out about this. Had a tommy hexamine stove as backup for my Swedish army cookset for years - carried it in the car until now. I've tried 'Greenstuff' but couldn't get on with it; it may have been the way I was using it but it didn't seem to get very hot. My thinking is I'll have to go back to using the 'Benghazi burner' I was taught to use in the Scouts - obviously a much safer choice in the eyes of the Government!

 

[Ozmundo]

As mentioned above Esbit etc is still advertised for sale online.

 

[Herman30]

How long before Fire Dragon is banned because some folks are using it to make squeeze?

Make what?

 

[Ozmundo]

Squeeze is a colloquial term for a material that can be used to build homemade “things that go bang”. That’s why hexi is class as an explosive precursor.

I asked some chaps who deal with this sort of thing professionally. They hadn’t heard of the ban and commented “F.F.S”. And yes we were having a brew on an old army stove….

 

[Herman30]

If they want to ban Fire Dragon they might as well ban alcohol and gelatine.

 

[Jared]

Egg shells (calcium carbonate) and vinegar (acetic acid) to make calcium acetate, which will gel ethanol.

 

[Chris]

If they want to ban Fire Dragon they might as well ban alcohol and gelatine.

Don’t give them ideas

 

[Tengu]

Whats that stuff they run Mamod engines on?

 

[Tengu]

Ack, double post

 

[Jared]

Whats that stuff they run Mamod engines on?

Hexamine.

Mamod got a license, but can only sell to other license owners.