HEXAMINE. PLEASE READ!
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Ok folks, that'll be all from me for a bit on this subject as I think we all have enough info to drown in!
please refrain from too much chemical discussion on here as a public forum. This is simply to be circumspect as legit chemical users and not give forum staff a headache or more reason for government to legislate......only takes one to spoil fun! You know what I'm saying.
please refrain from too much chemical discussion on here as a public forum. This is simply to be circumspect as legit chemical users and not give forum staff a headache or more reason for government to legislate......only takes one to spoil fun! You know what I'm saying.
To be honest we did similar with 3 6inch nails.
Hexamine tabs can contain Trioxane but trioxane is very volatile.
Trioxane tabs (Vietnam era ish) do not appear to contain Hexamine and are therfore exempt.
I don't wish to sound hostile or in any way in support of over draconian laws but the Home Office mean business on this and those found wanting have paid a very heavy price for thinking they have the advantage.
Look up the case of Gert Meyers of Bridlington. He was found In breach of the Poisons Act and the consequences were devastating. The HO tried to communicate with him and cut him a lot of slack to be fair.
Possibly not a good idea to draw their attention to it. The typical and safest answer for them is to say no and and ban something. One of the reasons I didn't fit in with the civil service/NHS/govt. was because I came from private industry where they excpect you to find a way.
I strongly suspect that this latest restriction was the Govt's rushed attempt under MP pressure to convert as much EU into UK law as quickly as possible. Recently they came under fire for drafting driving eyesight restrictions by basically copying a list of eye conditions from a medical document. The Opthalmic industry body pointed out that just about everybody in the UK would fail or require an eye test, and it was quietly amend but not dropped, to save face for the relevant MP/Conservatives.
You may notice that the one only known deterrent for Ticks is Pymethedrine (might have the spelling off) - now cannot be imported n any quantity and is only on sale in small relatively expensive quantities. Not on the offical banned list etc but impossible to get otherwise any amount of it, e.gh. to makle your own spray for bivvys and tents/clothing.
spot on sir. However, they have some system for trying to pick up on people trying to purchase larger volumes of anything with explosive or poisonous potential.
Bridlington man Gert Meyers jailed again for keeping dangerous chemicals
Gert Meyers is sentenced to 15 months in jail after breaching an order not to keep chemicals at home.
www.bbc.co.uk
Someone previously banned from having chemicals, sold some to a murderer & bomb plotter.
Pretty far from having a dozen hexi blocks for making a brew.
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So you started the thread going again after a few weeks of inactivity.....
How is that relevant? He's hardly an innocent is he.....
Not like he was accidentally in possession of some Hexi tablets, I'd understand it if he'd been mistreated.....
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I don’t use hexi but I would take the same approach as I do with Opinel knives (lock and 4.5cm blade) or a crossbow:
If a reputable establishment sells it to me and I use it as intended then that’s ok by me.
Is not going to go to court.
I’m referring to bona-fide sellers and users.
If I’m wrong then post the evidence here.
If a reputable establishment sells it to me and I use it as intended then that’s ok by me.
Is not going to go to court.
I’m referring to bona-fide sellers and users.
If I’m wrong then post the evidence here.
The point is his company did
Because his company status was not legitimate (no planning permission) his very possession of the chemicals became a problem. That's the relevance.
He thought himself his own legal expert and despite repeated attempts by the HO to tell him he needed a license to possess he persisted and fell badly. There is more to this case than published and even the HO page on it has changed with a different account to the one I read a few years back, the emphasis on sale of chemcals seems new and for some reason it says withdrawn?
Usually most cases are aggravated in some way to be this severe in the outcome but the clear black and white of the law says you can be prosecuted and locked up or possibly cautioned at best.
My latest communication with the HO confirms that despite myself being a third term license holder, on the next renewal I will NOT be granted hexamine for use in stoves "As there are safer alternatives"
If anyone wishes to take the chance on whether they will be treated with leniency or severity then its their choice.
Safer in what way and to who? A bit like "national security", does not really mean a thing.
Curious sort of circle here, recent info from someone who also happens to be a member on here. Was/Is in the Govt team responsible for keeping up with/getting ahead of unfriendlies inventive ideas for making trouble.
They also like Hexy for camping, but confirmed it has great potential even in small quantitities. Without wishing to draw attention, sale of it has therefore been effectively banned.("Withdrawn") Anybody making concerted attempts to obtain it will draw Govt. attention and scrutiny.
I notice a few other useful chemicals being quietly reduced or withdrawn, and purchases seized by Customs. I understand some household cleaning products have had their formulations changed as well.
We can therefore use up what we have, I wouldn't try to sell it. It is serious, and no longer a little thing. National security means just that, any threat or danger to public or the smooth running of the UK. It is not a matter of personal opinion.
No government makes anything, it is always individuals who do the work and they have agendas and likes.
Yes there probably are some better chemicals for burning than hexamine but in certain ways it is quite handy. By itself it is not dangerous but as a precursor it might be and so are an awful lot of other chemicals. You can't prohibit them all without stopping industries.
Yes there probably are some better chemicals for burning than hexamine but in certain ways it is quite handy. By itself it is not dangerous but as a precursor it might be and so are an awful lot of other chemicals. You can't prohibit them all without stopping industries.
Provided a genuine firm has a genuine industrial need for something and traceable stock control they will not have a problem getting it/a licence. The governmental intention is to prevent it getting into the retail domestic market.
I agree with you about the individuals and personal agenda on many things, on this one the agenda is very simple and the threat very real.
The other one you will see coming up very fast is the use of acids and alkalis in personal attacks, and risk reduction/prevention measures. The recent headlined incident is one of many. Last week I was with a PCSO in a town centre, and as he was telling me many of the police are carrying bottles of water in the cars because of it, such an incident came over the radio.
I agree with you about the individuals and personal agenda on many things, on this one the agenda is very simple and the threat very real.
The other one you will see coming up very fast is the use of acids and alkalis in personal attacks, and risk reduction/prevention measures. The recent headlined incident is one of many. Last week I was with a PCSO in a town centre, and as he was telling me many of the police are carrying bottles of water in the cars because of it, such an incident came over the radio.
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