Farmer accidently shoots burglars....
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Durluz, it was the term sat it out i objected to, i my mind i was'nt thinking of High command tactic's,more the fact that men fought and died till the end of hostiliy's i dont care what the big wig's do in wars,( i apreciate we are now talking about differnt issue's but in your original post you made no such refferance) The British frontline Soldier, Sailor or Airman,certainly didnt sit it out.
I can also think of numerous post 43 British led/thought operations.
Have read post below so added this to say we where at crosswire's.
I can also think of numerous post 43 British led/thought operations.
Have read post below so added this to say we where at crosswire's.
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Oh, I see the confusion. My apologies - I probably didn't make myself clear when I first said 'sit it out'. I wasn't refering to the individual servicemen, who worked as hard as they'd ever been asked to.
I was refering to the wider Biritsh strategy. As you rightly say, the frontline personnel (of ALL nations) still did the hard work.
all i can is having lost friends in Afghanistan and Iraq was is s***...... but all the forces will do there bit and give all they can, if it was years gone by or years to come, people will keep giving untill no more can be given includeing the ultimate sacrifce........
i thank all forces for the work they did during any previous war, alive and dead.......
and yes i know i signed on the dotted line, and if it came to it yes, i would give my life........... its just what i believe..........
anyway, rant over........lol.....
Happy xmas to all, enjoy and be safe while you do it.......
regards.
chris......................................
i thank all forces for the work they did during any previous war, alive and dead.......
and yes i know i signed on the dotted line, and if it came to it yes, i would give my life........... its just what i believe..........
anyway, rant over........lol.....
Happy xmas to all, enjoy and be safe while you do it.......
regards.
chris......................................
I think that all of these arguments boil down to two things.
1, We no longer trust the police to turn up on time or in force enough to deal with the issue in the first place. Probably due to lack of funding and lack of respect they now have due to various factors.
2, If they do manage to turn up in time and manage to get the numties to court, the courts will do nothing as there are no prison spaces left. Probably due to the current rising costs of keeping an inmate in the luxaries they are acustomed on the outside.
More police on the ground, harsher sentences for repeat offenders, = higher taxes which no party wants a part off..
1, We no longer trust the police to turn up on time or in force enough to deal with the issue in the first place. Probably due to lack of funding and lack of respect they now have due to various factors.
2, If they do manage to turn up in time and manage to get the numties to court, the courts will do nothing as there are no prison spaces left. Probably due to the current rising costs of keeping an inmate in the luxaries they are acustomed on the outside.
More police on the ground, harsher sentences for repeat offenders, = higher taxes which no party wants a part off..
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Dwardo, your point num2 was highlighted today with news that prisoner's get better fed/looked after at Christmas than old people who rely on meal on wheels,and the food they provide.
I like your joke at the end about Government party's not wanting to tax us more, its good we can laugh this time of year.
I like your joke at the end about Government party's not wanting to tax us more, its good we can laugh this time of year.
That is a bit harsh, you are suggesting that anyone fighting on the other side in either of the two world wars can be compared to the neds breaking into some pensioners house.
That aside I think you have misunderstood, turning the lights on and shouting that you have called the police should be enough to encourage most burglars to leg it empty handed. Going out of your way to tackle them may result in you being injured, or anger them enough to want to come back with reinforcements at a future point, why take that risk? Of course if they decide to attack you rather than run then that is a different situation altogether.
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That is a bit harsh, you are suggesting that anyone fighting on the other side in either of the two world wars can be compared to the neds breaking into some pensioners house.
That aside I think you have misunderstood, turning the lights on and shouting that you have called the police should be enough to encourage most burglars to leg it empty handed. Going out of your way to tackle them may result in you being injured, or anger them enough to want to come back with reinforcements at a future point, why take that risk? Of course if they decide to attack you rather than run then that is a different situation altogether.
That's the key I think. Here in the US self defense is usually recognized as a right. That said, most states also impose a "duty to retreat" before exersizing that right. In plain language that means if you can avoid being robbed/mugged/assaulted/whatever by going in your house and locking the door then that's what you should do. Shooting someone breaking into your house with intent to do you harm is vastly different from shooting someone breaking into your shed to steal whatever might be stored there.
Not long after I last wrote, there were two more pensioners robbed, then it stopped.
The grape vine down there doesnt know why, so I guess that whoever was doing it has either overdosed, got imprisoned for something else, or got er.....encouraged to stop it.
No Idea whats happened, but Im very glad its stopped.
The grape vine down there doesnt know why, so I guess that whoever was doing it has either overdosed, got imprisoned for something else, or got er.....encouraged to stop it.
No Idea whats happened, but Im very glad its stopped.
