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Perhaps it’s a topic that’s allowed on prepping forums, then? As far as I’m aware, it’s against the Bushcraft UK forum rules, though perhaps I can be corrected on that.
Let's not get snippy, it was a great thread untill now.
Let's bring it back to practicalities. The politics don't matter, they can be discussed privately with family and friends, we are all aware of them. It's the ideas that matter. The hints and tips we can give that may not have been thought about by others.
Personaly I like this thread and would hate to see it shut down because someone gets nippy about things.
Please,
We need to stick together and support each other, not bite heads off, or have huffy fits.
 
Let's not get snippy, it was a great thread untill now.
Let's bring it back to practicalities. The politics don't matter, they can be discussed privately with family and friends, we are all aware of them. It's the ideas that matter. The hints and tips we can give that may not have been thought about by others.
Personaly I like this thread and would hate to see it shut down because someone gets nippy about things.
Please,
We need to stick together and support each other, not bite heads off, or have huffy fits.

I wasn’t intending to be snippy, though I see it may have been. To @RonW ’s credit it wasn’t him who started us down the political discussion route.

And @TeeDee ‘s initial post was clearly the result of replying to an older post out of context and I fully agree with his latter post about ‘Keep off the Grass’ signs!

Amazing what posting reductive and inflammatory images from Facebook can do to a conversation. Thank heavens this forum is mostly a refuge from all that

Perhaps I’m just grumpy today. Agreed though, doesn’t need the topic further derailing so I’ll go and grumble at the garden.
 
Ok, let's turn away from politics and tackle another, perhaps most important, issue of prepping; community building.
One thing I, as an immigrant, am facing is the lack of social cohesion and/or acceptance. It is not just being a migrant, but also holding views that many in my hostcountry see as outdated or even offensive.
I know every western country faces its issues with that (yes, I know; politics), but how to mitigate that? How do you build community when cultures are incompatible or even hostile?
 
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I wasn’t intending to be snippy, though I see it may have been. To @RonW ’s credit it wasn’t him who started us down the political discussion route.

And @TeeDee ‘s initial post was clearly the result of replying to an older post out of context and I fully agree with his latter post about ‘Keep off the Grass’ signs!

Amazing what posting reductive and inflammatory images from Facebook can do to a conversation. Thank heavens this forum is mostly a refuge from all that

Perhaps I’m just grumpy today. Agreed though, doesn’t need the topic further derailing so I’ll go and grumble at the garden.
I'll forgive you. :)
Have a cuppa and watch the birdies in the garden. Chill out, and enjoy a bit of nature. Best cure going!
I've just planted my peas and dwarf French beans this afternoon. Prepped the hanging baskets for planting baby tomatoes and begun to make my terracotta cooler.
Keeping busy and being productive.
Times are getting worrying, and there is a tension in the air we have to be mindful of, and do our best not to inflame the situation with grumpiness or fear.
Now my back is killing me again after all that shopping and gardening, so , an easy salad meal, and early to bed.
Tomorrow is another day, and I'm hoping the co op gets a delivery very soon. Shelves are still empty apparently, tho I havnt been down for two days, so just relying on hearsay. Its been a week now. So I'm glad I've got more than 3 days worth of food in the house!
 
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Ok, let's turn away from politics and tackle another, perhaps most important, issue of prepping; community building.
One thing I, as an immigrant, am facing is the lack of social cohesion and/or acceptance. It is not just being a migrant, but also holding views that many in my hostcountry see as outdated or even offensive.
I know every western country faces its issues with that (yes, I know; politics), but how to mitigate that? How do you build community when cultures are incompatible or even hostile?

If it helps at all, I was born here and I find myself completely politically homeless.

What I find helps me is to remember that people in my community mostly all have similar desires and the same human needs and emotions. Most of us want to look after ourselves and our loved ones, have a roof over our heads, have a sense of purpose and to have enough money or resources to be able to do the things that make us happy.

I don’t think we have evolved as quickly as the world demands of us. How can we possibly have a full understanding or even an opinion on half of the stuff going on around the world? We can’t. Those who claim to have an answer to it all are lying.

Humans evolved in smaller communities. We had tens of thousands of years of it, and only in the last maybe 200 years have global affairs been foisted upon us, nowhere near long enough for us to meaningly evolve to accommodate it.

What can we actually do? We can contribute to our immediate community. We can be good and honest people to those we interact with daily. We can look out for out neighbours, and not leave litter on the ground next to a bin because it isn’t our problem. We can go and pick it up and put it in the bin and in doing so we’ve made our community that bit stronger.

If someone’s values don’t impact you, leave them be. Do not tolerate the intolerant, those who would try to force their values upon the collective values of your community.

We can build communities by realising that 99% of the stuff we hear in the news and on social media is deliberately designed to make you angry at someone else in your community so that you don’t notice how much has been stolen from you by the real enemy.

If you go somewhere like the Bush Moot you really see what community is. People of all backgrounds and persuasions coming together, respecting each other and sharing skills and knowledge.

(Ok genuinely going to the garden with a beer now. :D )
 
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Ok, let's turn away from politics and tackle another, perhaps most important, issue of prepping; community building.
One thing I, as an immigrant, am facing is the lack of social cohesion and/or acceptance. It is not just being a migrant, but also holding views that many in my hostcountry see as outdated or even offensive.
I know every western country faces its issues with that (yes, I know; politics), but how to mitigate that? How do you build community when cultures are incompatible or even hostile?
I guess that depends on what ethnicity you are, and how long you have been here.
Personaly I have several naturalised black south African friends, so it's not a problem for me....unless they were to start waving certain flags and threatening young girls having come into the country illegally. If they are legally working, or studying and attempting to integrate into society. Not a problem.
But then, sadly, that is a politically slanted question due to certain events.
A hard question. Dare say you're fine here, but wider society can be brutal to those who are different, and, contrary to belief, it has always been so. Even the Irish had a hard time once.
Even I, white, British, etc, have suffered prejudice, as I rode a big motorbike, so must be a hells angel, or some sort of degenerate !(I was a motorcycle riding instructor and ran my own school for 10 yrs!
I've been refused service in pubs while on the bike, but next day, dressed to the nines in a dress, make up etc, been served perfectly happily.
It's an odd world. :(
 

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