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The fearmongering continues.
No easier way to control and manipulate a population then it is to do so with a frightened one.
Civilizations collapse, new ones arise.
The climate changes, gets warmer, gets colder and has always done so. Even without industries, cars or even humans!

Well yes but we've certainly dramatically sped up the process. ;)
 
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At what point does a conversation get deemed ‘political’?

The problem with the last few comments is that the options are these:

1) Leave them unchallenged and leave the perspective that the BCUK forum tends to agree with the opinions re climate change/Russia/NATO
2) Reply and then it becomes a heated political discussion/argument
 
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At what point does a conversation get deemed ‘political’?

The problem with the last few comments is that the options are these:

1) Leave them unchallenged and leave the perspective that the BCUK forum tends to agree with the opinions re climate change/Russia/NATO
2) Reply and then it becomes a heated political discussion/argument
It's a difficult one, bit it's hard to discuss prepping without those topics coming up in some way, or else it's a pointless discussion as to the whys and wherefores of the necessity or otherwise of being prepared for what is obviously coming down the line at some point.
I do agree that we should try not to get political, but its politics that have started the need to prep. No avoiding it.
Rock and hard place.
We could try to keep it just practical. But its an emotive subject for some.
I think we all have some level of fear/worry about the future, even if we are dismissive of it, and say its all a load of ***** and we are not gonna let it affect our lives.
Politics are frustrating right now, with very polarised views.
Perspective is needed.
Keep calm and carry on prepping, keep it low key, and enjoy what you can in your life.
Don't let the rest of the world rock your boat, but make sure your stabilisers are in tip top shape.
Leave the doomongers to their games, but don't ignore the warnings. Sort yourself then worry about others if you wish, otherwise, leave them to it.

Between ourselves, let's keep it practical.

We can't change what's happening on the world stage, or whats coming down the line, so online discusdion of the whys and wherefors are pointless to some degree, but we can insure ourselves with practical applications to our lives by taking notice , and implementing practical steps. That's far more important than the fearmongering Politics or anything else.
 
It's a difficult one, bit it's hard to discuss prepping without those topics coming up in some way, or else it's a pointless discussion as to the whys and wherefores of the necessity or otherwise of being prepared for what is obviously coming down the line at some point.
I do agree that we should try not to get political, but its politics that have started the need to prep. No avoiding it.
Rock and hard place.
We could try to keep it just practical. But its an emotive subject for some.
I think we all have some level of fear/worry about the future, even if we are dismissive of it, and say its all a load of ***** and we are not gonna let it affect our lives.
Politics are frustrating right now, with very polarised views.
Perspective is needed.
Keep calm and carry on prepping, keep it low key, and enjoy what you can in your life.
Don't let the rest of the world rock your boat, but make sure your stabilisers are in tip top shape.
Leave the doomongers to their games, but don't ignore the warnings. Sort yourself then worry about others if you wish, otherwise, leave them to it.

Between ourselves, let's keep it practical.

We can't change what's happening on the world stage, or whats coming down the line, so online discusdion of the whys and wherefors are pointless to some degree, but we can insure ourselves with practical applications to our lives by taking notice , and implementing practical steps. That's far more important than the fearmongering Politics or anything else.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with the last bit. I think we can all agree that nuclear apocalypse is bad, or that there’s a need to adjust for changes in climate, without needing to get into views on why those situations might crop up.

One of the reasons I prefer coming here rather than using something like Facebook. This forum seeks to unite people, social media seeks to divide people.
 
Well called Chris. I think the Mods have to be able to draw a line/request a close on a discussion because it has strayed too far from what this forum is about - Bushcraft.

We all have to recognise, and accept without getting upset about it, that members can have widely differing viewpoints. Nothing is gained and much is lost, by repeated attempts to argue to the contrary or change someone's else's view.

We can all have different reasons for our interest in bushcraft skills, be that end of the world, back to nature, keeping old skills alive, unforeseen infrastructure, prepping or just sheer fun. But we have common ground in bushcraft, and can pick or choose from within this forum the areas of most personal interest.
 
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Bushcrafting is the origional survival/prepping skill.
Modern prepping is an offshoot taking into account our modern lives, and attempting to stay comfortably cushioned .
But (not to be political, just for illustration purposes) if your home with all your lovely preps in is completely destroyed..as in Palestine, Ukraine, or Britain in ww2, no amount of prepping will help you.
But, your bushcraft skills will be a great help in getting by.

Firecraft, ..keeps you warm, cooks your food, is a morale booster

Foraging ...provides food and other items.

Being able to fashon items from nature , or fix /repurpose items adds to your kit and comfort.

My skills, such as they are, give me much comfort, as I know I am resourceful and fairly practical, so I will be fairly ok... though with my wonky knees, I might need a couple of slaves and a sedan chair to get me from a to b in the future. :)
 
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Bushcrafting is the origional survival/prepping skill.

Cough, cough! That's the problem with the term 'Bushcraft', it's somewhat ambiguous. It covers quite a wide variety of things.

For example: learning wilderness skills from pre industrial, and even pre-agricultural societies, which are truly sustainable (or at least could be if population density and land useage hadn't changed so dramatically).

At the other end of the scale, a night or two away in a petrochemical tent/tarp/sleeping bag, cooking in plastic bags of food produced from intensive industrial agriculture, illumination by a tactical torch with all manner of rare earth metals, smartphone built by international corporation to record the event and share with the world, having burnt fossil fuels to drive to one of the few places which hasn't yet been spoilt by all of the above!

None of which has any relevance to preparing for unknowns admittedly. But I do know a prepper who is very wasteful, stockpiling loads of food they do not regularly eat, and wasting it once it is well out of date. Not only wasted energy and resources, but why on earth stock things you don't like, it's hardly going to keep morale up...

It's a reminder to make sure that additional supplies are an extension to what usually goes through the kitchen, not a load of extras which could well start turning the stomach after a few days!
 
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At the other end of the scale, a night or two away in a petrochemical tent/tarp/sleeping bag, cooking in plastic bags of food produced from intensive industrial agriculture, illumination by a tactical torch with all manner of rare earth metals, smartphone built by international corporation to record the event and share with the world, having burnt fossil fuels to drive to one of the few places which hasn't yet been spoilt by all of the above!

Hey, I resent that. My car is electric.

…which as we all know has no environmental impact at all, it is simply plucked from a bush and gathers energy from my chakras.
 

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