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quite possibly the shortest lived membership :)
thanks very much MODS i personally think you do a marvellous job especially as i understand its completely voluntary? i know it was back when i did it many moons ago on a very different type of forum
you guys rock(sorry i dunno how to do the emoticons)
Thanks
regards
Sam
 

Toddy

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Jan 21, 2005
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wiltshirehero turns out to be spiritofold who was banned by me .:rolleyes:
Banned again.......no duplicate accounts allowed.

Frankly once the bans were in place the other night, I could clear 174 pms from my box...........that's how much of an irritation that was being caused to others.
There are 15 Mods by my last count..........imagine that number multiplied across their boxes too. :eek:

Sorry for the interruption folks, Admin will try to prevent this happening again.

cheers.
Toddy
 

a12jpm

Need to contact Admin...
Jan 15, 2008
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Toddy,

If you only lived near Braco I would pour you a glass of the co-ops finest cheap red wine, only 3.99 a bottle - bargain!

I appreciate all the grief you guys put up with so thanks and lets not let minor irritations like this one spoil it for the rest of us who are here for knowledge and a giggle every so often.
 

Eric_Methven

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Apr 20, 2005
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I'm still here too, but have been busy with the grandkids on half term.
The other day I helped them make a huge pan of very hot beef curry. Then we made shortbread.
Today I taught them both how to make rock buns and scones. Ellen wants to learn how to make proper bread and Cameron wants to make doughnuts.
Next time I'm going to teach them how to make short paste and we'll make some meat pies. I told them I use my false teeth to crimp the pastry. They both laughed then Cameron looked worried. I asked him what was wrong and he said "If you use your false teeth to crimp the pastry, I dread to think what you use to make the holes in the doughnuts".

I thought the grandkids were brilliant when they were toddlers, but they are both so much more fun now they are 11 and 13. Cameron has my sense of humour.

Eric
 

xylaria

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Remember the middlemud meet is on as well.

We all can get a little peevish sometimes, and the internet has this amazing knack of making people seem more arrogant and humourless than they actually are. I think mod team on here are great, and thats not me crawling, they do good job in what is starting to become difficult curcumstances. I come to discuss bushcraft, not argue with malicious cliques and nutters, and I don't like seeing people I know and like being bullied by the same malicious cliques and nutters, just because they stand up to them. As I said the mods need a really good pat on the back.
 

sapper1

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Feb 3, 2008
2,572
1
swansea
I agree with all thats been said,but I think the thread should be closed now before it becomes the same type of discussion that caused the upset last time.
 

addo

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Feb 8, 2006
2,485
9
Derbyshire
Im still here, thought it was quiet though.
Take more than a few mardy folks to put me off this great site, which gives me loads of ideas to try across a huge range of skills. Very handy when your off work and cant get out and do the more physical tasks like camping out, walking and cooking up a feast.
 

spamel

Banned
Feb 15, 2005
6,833
21
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Silkstone, Blighty!
I'm not surprised people are leaving in their droves. I saw the picture that got one member banned, can't say there was anything wrong with it personally. Comments made after thast post I am not privvy to so I imagine that is the reason they were banned, but it seems it is an escalation that wasn't required over a picture of some rifles on a bed. It's getting a bit restrictive on here lately, so I will be popping in now and then but I need some more freedom. I like a laugh as much as the next guy, but feel it can't be done here. I'm sorry that is so.
 

Toddy

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Mod
Jan 21, 2005
38,996
4,650
S. Lanarkshire
Gad that's pathetic. The photo had nothing to do with his ban. It was simply edited into a link...........y'know as per guidelines that images of firearms are best kept to Fair Game so that unsuspecting folks don't open them in public spaces.

But if that's the story his ego needs to feed......... as I said, pathetic.

Toddy
 

spamel

Banned
Feb 15, 2005
6,833
21
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Silkstone, Blighty!
Mary, why do you have to force your opinions down everyones' throat all the time? Long standing members would probably have got away with it with a telling off, as I said I have no idea of posts made after the picture but I feel it was probably handled badly. Can't say for sure though as the whole thread has dissapeared!

You wish individuals to form an opinion and make their minds up whether it is worth hanging around, then a bit more transparency is required. Why delete a thread that shows one person in a bad light who is promptly banned unless there are pictures of pornography, dead critters or excessive swearing? I could see no reason why spiritofold was banned, or Bernie, they've just gone.

I know you dislike anything related to hunting animals or the dispatch thereof which is fair enough, but I feel that your opinions stand in the way of your Moderation, which is usually top notch. Anybody falling outside the rules is promptly smacked down and that is the end of it where other things are often left to go on. Moderators should leave their personal opinions at the door when they step into the forum, the rules are what should be enforced. I'm sorry to say that for those reasons alone, I need to spend less time here.
 

Toddy

Mod
Mod
Jan 21, 2005
38,996
4,650
S. Lanarkshire
You really don't know me Spamel do you ?
I have no issues on hunting, shooting or fishing. I happily deal with dead critturs and all their bits and pieces. I don't eat them, but that's my only bias.

The simple fact is that there are guidelines here and as a Mod it is my responsibility to see that they are adhered to.

That you disagree with them is just tough, the vast majority of the membership quite happily get along with them.
A few very vocal troublemakers apart, the site runs along quite happily.........thrives even. It's active, busy, interesting and it is suitable viewing for all. As a father yourself I thought you might have appreciated the care we take to see that it is kept so.

Toddy
 

spamel

Banned
Feb 15, 2005
6,833
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Silkstone, Blighty!
You really don't know me Spamel do you ?
I have no issues on hunting, shooting or fishing. I happily deal with dead critturs and all their bits and pieces. I don't eat them, but that's my only bias.

The simple fact is that there are guidelines here and as a Mod it is my responsibility to see that they are adhered to.

That you disagree with them is just tough, the vast majority of the membership quite happily get along with them.
A few very vocal troublemakers apart, the site runs along quite happily.........thrives even. It's active, busy, interesting and it is suitable viewing for all. As a father yourself I thought you might have appreciated the care we take to see that it is kept so.

Toddy

I don't disagree with them at all. And if you have read my posts as me sounding aggressive, then you don't know me very well either. I am actually quite sad that it has come to this.
 

Toddy

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Jan 21, 2005
38,996
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S. Lanarkshire
Imagine how I feel then :(
I've had three days of this stirring by two incredibly nasty minded individuals purporting to be only concerned for the forums standards but in reality only intend on stroking their own opinions.

Take a wee stand back, how many other forums have already banned them and how tolerant do you expect us to be of their behaviour ?
I wasn't joking about the amount of concern others had about them, but no one wants to raise their heads above the parapet since they'll be next in line for the aggro that's been flung around.

The personal attacks on me are as I said, pathetic. Playground humour and bullying. They need to start acting like responsible adults and not like gang mentality stupid oafs.

Aggressive was your word, I haven't used it in context to any of your posts. How come though I'm expected to tolerate their aggression for my staunchness in Modding carefully, yet they will not tolerate the rules of the site they signed up to ?

Toddy
 

Toddy

Mod
Mod
Jan 21, 2005
38,996
4,650
S. Lanarkshire
:D

Sorry Sapper1 , we did.

I'm afraid your thread has become the latest victim of the witch hunt :(

Genuinely, we don't close many threads, usually way less than a handful a month on average, and spammers apart we ban maybe three or four folks in a year. Probably why we take it ill out when those who feel the need to launch into personal attacks let rip.

On the whole this is one of the quieter, as in less argumentative, forums on the net. That in itself irks some people, especially those who don't accept any Modding or that guidelines are meant for everyone and don't see why they can't swear, post adult humour topics, attack individuals, etc.

If this thread draws a final line under this conflagration, it would suit most of us just fine.

cheers,
Toddy
 

fishfish

Full Member
Jul 29, 2007
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i had no idea what was going on! over moderation will cause more problems than it solves,as will airing dirty linnen in public.
 

Toddy

Mod
Mod
Jan 21, 2005
38,996
4,650
S. Lanarkshire
Sorry, but see that's the problem right there.
My linen is clean, Our linen is clean, but the folks who tried to make it soiled are out on their ears and busy running around stirring.

Actually, if this site is so dreadful, why have the Mods now had to ban multiple accounts for these individuals ? Why are they so desperate to re-join ? :dunno:

Toddy
 

mick miller

Full Member
Jan 4, 2008
520
0
Herts.
Hey I'm on three, just as before. I have to say though I can't be doing with all the nuttiness, sniping and politik of late. I'm rather hoping all the blathering ceases soon and we can all get back to our respective interests and to just talking about them and sharing knowledge.

I'm also on survival.com...but it's probably best not to mention that word (I'm joking). This forum and the other one will continue to be main areas of focus still.
 

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