Are you wearing yours yet ?
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National Service ('peace time' conscription) formally ended in 1960. Those who, for one reason or another, defered their time were still required to serve when their reason for deferrement ended/passed - the last conscript left the forces in 1963 (others chose to stay on after they had done their 'bit').
Nope, many of my very much alive fathers generation are still causing mischief and mayhem!
Whilst I will be wearing a Poppy to remember all the dead, injured and others it would be outrageous to delete a Post simply for disagreeing. In a sense it would stand in opposition to what many fought and died for.
Not simply for disagreeing it just seemss inappropriate to play politics with this.
Regardless if you disagree with recent conflict (and I do) our forces deserve some respect - they did not elect our government.
Regardless if you disagree with recent conflict (and I do) our forces deserve some respect - they did not elect our government.
This thread asked the question "will you wear a poppy well?" I responded and gave my reasons. I feel this is perfectly reasonable.
As a final comment, I would just say I did not mention politics.
The Royal British Legion helps people of all ages and backgrounds. To be eligible for our help, you must have served in the Forces for at least 7 days, or be the dependant of someone who has served. It really is that simple.
Every serviceman who was conscripted did a job, got paid and knew the risks. They also had an option not to go into combat.
Every serviceman since conscription ended is a volunteer.
A large number of mountain rescue teams are made up of serving or ex members of the armed forces.
The RNLI have their own organization for the support of their members, but they still support the rememberance day celebration.
Andy
ps does that poem remind anyone else of the fast show.
I will be wearing one with pride.
I often don't agree with the decisions of politicians but I believe that there are brave men and women, past and present including family members, who deserve my support.
Cheers,
Steve
I often don't agree with the decisions of politicians but I believe that there are brave men and women, past and present including family members, who deserve my support.
Cheers,
Steve
That is your choice and you are entitled to it. The irony is that you are entitled to many of your choices in life because of the efforts and sacrifice of those who you refuse to commemorate. That is my view.
All the best, Aaron
SimonM
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Each year I do a wall display based on Remembrance Day in my classroom. This year is slightly different in that I don't have a traditional classroom, so I have taken the poem from the first post, and superimposed it on a background. These will be printed at A3 and one placed in each of the cubicles in my area of school.
I firmly believe that the youth of today need to be educated about life, and this will go a small way towards that goal.
Simon
I firmly believe that the youth of today need to be educated about life, and this will go a small way towards that goal.
Simon
Of course I will be wearing my poppy with pride, I am an ex serviceman, and have friends and relatives both alive and dead who are/were servicemen and women.
No one likes war, but it is sometimes necessary.
A phrase I have heard before is -
If you can read this, thank a teacher
If you can read it in English, thank a soldier
I am in a position to say thank you to both.
Let's just remember them for who they are, Brothers, sisters, Mums and Dads, Aunts and Uncles, Cousins, friends and neighbours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNlqoaAgMpU&feature=related
Come home safe those who are still serving your country, take note that many of us here at home are thinking of what you are doing for us.
No one likes war, but it is sometimes necessary.
A phrase I have heard before is -
If you can read this, thank a teacher
If you can read it in English, thank a soldier
I am in a position to say thank you to both.
Let's just remember them for who they are, Brothers, sisters, Mums and Dads, Aunts and Uncles, Cousins, friends and neighbours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNlqoaAgMpU&feature=related
Come home safe those who are still serving your country, take note that many of us here at home are thinking of what you are doing for us.
No need to get personal. We are all entitled to our opinions.
Don't forget that the people who died were defending the right to free speech.
That some people don't quite understand that is regretable. However they still have that right, whether or not they deserve it.
While I disagree with what he says I will defend to the death his right to say it.
He is still a prat, he expressed his personal opinion and so did I
He is still a prat, he expressed his personal opinion and so did I
As soon as I see them being "sold" I will be wearing one, and be glad that I have the choice - of remembering that some concidered their lives/health worth risking so that others can live in peace - or not bothering to give the respect due to someone who took risks that others (including myself) dare not.
I also give to mountain rescue, lifeboat and other deserving charities.
I also give to mountain rescue, lifeboat and other deserving charities.
My great grandad served and died during the first world war. He was in the Hampshires, a private. Him and his fellow soldiers were shipped out in 1915 to Gallipoli, on the SS.River Clyde.
They were to land at Cape Helles, part of the Dardanelles. It was a massive failure.
They were outgunned by turks with machine guns, it was slaughter. My great grandad
had severe leg wounds from that attempted landing, he lingered on and died from those same wounds in 1918. Must have been awful!!!
Its so important that these blokes, and the ones who came after them are never forgotten!
Andy >>>>>--------------------------------<>
They were to land at Cape Helles, part of the Dardanelles. It was a massive failure.
They were outgunned by turks with machine guns, it was slaughter. My great grandad
had severe leg wounds from that attempted landing, he lingered on and died from those same wounds in 1918. Must have been awful!!!
Its so important that these blokes, and the ones who came after them are never forgotten!
Andy >>>>>--------------------------------<>
I don't think that Chips' post should be deleted, even though it's clearly posted from a position of ignorance.
Firstly, as others have said, it is an example of the freedom of speech so many served to maintain, and continue to serve.
Secondly, it should be left as a reminder to all of us that even when we disagree, we should show civility to all.
In my experience people who spout the 'they're only doing a job' thing are often embarrassed because they know they wouldn't be able to do it themselves.
Perhaps Chips is from one of very few families who were not affected by conflict. As well as all those who died, I shall be remembering my relatives who served:
Cpl, Grenadier Guards, WW1
Maj, Royal Fusiliers, WW1 (MC 1918)
2 x 2 Lt, East Yorks Rifles (KIA)
Vice-Admiral, RN, (KCMG 1916)
WO, RAF, WWII
Fg Off, RAF, Aden
FS, RAF, Malaya
Never forgetting my friends and colleagues who continue to put themselves in harm's way.
Firstly, as others have said, it is an example of the freedom of speech so many served to maintain, and continue to serve.
Secondly, it should be left as a reminder to all of us that even when we disagree, we should show civility to all.
In my experience people who spout the 'they're only doing a job' thing are often embarrassed because they know they wouldn't be able to do it themselves.
Perhaps Chips is from one of very few families who were not affected by conflict. As well as all those who died, I shall be remembering my relatives who served:
Cpl, Grenadier Guards, WW1
Maj, Royal Fusiliers, WW1 (MC 1918)
2 x 2 Lt, East Yorks Rifles (KIA)
Vice-Admiral, RN, (KCMG 1916)
WO, RAF, WWII
Fg Off, RAF, Aden
FS, RAF, Malaya
Never forgetting my friends and colleagues who continue to put themselves in harm's way.
