3 questions about trangia's.

[Bjorn Victor]

To all you trangia lovers:

I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?

Also, the swedish army has a stove (the trangia) especially made for them. Do other armies have stoves made for them too? Like a US army MSR stove?

And finally, was (is?) the stove basic issued to all swedish soldiers? Or just some units? And how did (do?) they transport it? In a pouch in the backpack?

Thanks,

Bjorn

 

[PC2K]

what the hell is a US army MSR stove? I know MSR stove, but one from the army?

 

[Silverback]

I think Bjorn meant this as a made up example of what another stove dedicated to a military organisation might be called

 

[Pablo]

Bjorn,
I have to confess my cullinery skills starts and ends with rehydrating or reheating food maybe extending to stews on occasions. I think the SA trangia is ideal for this and has the additional benefit of being able to cook over a fire without the burner because of the billy. Anytyhing more I would tend to use the civilian version.

As for army cooksets, when I was 'in' (around 1980) Brits were issued throwaway Hexamine or Esbit stoves in 24 hour ration packs.

By the way, I've just tried this with a crusader mug and civilian trangia burner and it all works well together.

I really can't remember any others or know any modern versions but I'm sure someone will put me right.
Pablo

 

[Bjorn Victor]

I think Bjorn meant this as a made up example of what another stove dedicated to a military organisation might be called

yes. It is a made up example. Sorry if it was confusing...

 

[Bjorn Victor]

Cool set up Pablo. I like it.

I guess I'm like you. I use a stove for rehydrating food and hot water for coffee or tea.

I have to say that for longer treks, I usually take my primus omnifuel with me. A 2 week trek with a steel trangia and methanol for 2 weeks would be a bit heavy I think...

 

[rik_uk3]

The Finnish Army use these I'm told (next time somebody says "Trangia's don't work in the cold" show them that picture)



same as these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Optimus-T91Pu...ryZ19296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
(I've no connection to the seller)

I like the SA Trangia's but they are only really for one person, so I stick to the Trangia 27 or larger 25; if you drill a couple of holes in the real Trangia pans you can rig a handle from wire (coat hanger works) and use the pots over an open fire

The Americans have used all sorts of stoves, from these (again no connection to the seller), which are fantastic

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Optimus-111-H...5QQihZ009QQcategoryZ87136QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

To the Optimus 199 Ranger stove, the 8R, and of course Coleman stoves

 

[Deleted member 4605]

I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?

I've used the SA Trangias, but I prefer the civilian version.

As for food, the usual - water (for brews, rice, noodles, pasta, cous cous etc.); beans; pasta'n'sauce; sausage, bacon and eggs (the joys of having a frying pan on the civilian model! ); and of course bannock.

Although the SA is smaller, I'd rather have the flexibility of my civilian one.

 

[oldsoldier]

The US army had, at one point, a stove that went with the HMMWVs. I am not sure what type of stove it was, as I've never seen it, but there is a place for it to clamp inside the hood. However, they experienced several "rapid fuel expansion issues", and stopped issuing the stoves. To the best of my knowledge, no soldier is issued a stove, as the MRE's come with a heating device. We did, however, use esbit stoves quite extensively, as we could get the hexamine tabs by the crateload. Couldnt light them at night though...light discipline & all that.

 

[leon-1]

To all you trangia lovers:

I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?

Also, the swedish army has a stove (the trangia) especially made for them. Do other armies have stoves made for them too? Like a US army MSR stove?

And finally, was (is?) the stove basic issued to all swedish soldiers? Or just some units? And how did (do?) they transport it? In a pouch in the backpack?

Thanks,

Bjorn

I'll be honest with you, I have an old trangia 27, I have the Swedish Military verion and I have a clickstand. Nowadays I use the clickstand more than anything else if I use a stove, on rare occasions I use a gas stove.

I use it for everything as far as cooking is concerned and when there is more than just me I have an open fire and the trangia to get food ready.

 

[Zodiak]

To all you trangia lovers:

I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?

- Beans mixed with hot dog, mushrooms and soya sauce
- Tinned rice pudding with strawberry jam or honey
- Tin beef chunks + tin of potatoes
- Hot dogs in Heinz "big" soup
- Beanfeast (soya beans) + pasta spirals cooked together with a little chilli powder

I used to eat "Hunger Breaks" mixed meals in a tin but they changed the recipie last year and now they leave a nasty aftertaste.

Plus coffee, but not at the same time

 

[big_swede]

The Finnish Army use these I'm told (next time somebody says "Trangia's don't work in the cold" show them that picture)



same as these

That picture shows swedish soldiers, or at least all their kit is swedish.

@Bjorn Victor
The SA stoves is supplied to all 'regular' units, e.g. the infantry and armoured units. The more specialised combat units (like the cavalry (rangers) and the marine infantry) units get's another version, like the one on the above picture, supplied by rik_uk3. It's kind of similar to the civvy trangia but smaller. The arctic rangers have been experimenting with multifuelstoves. All stoves gets carried in a backpack, except a minitrangia which is carried in a buttpack on the survival vests of the arctc rangers and the paratroopers. When I was in service the infantry guys on a regiment we visited still had the SA stove.

I use the SA stove, a civvy trangia or a multifuel stove depending on the situation. But I cook on stoves only where you aren't allowed to make a fire. This weekend I did a bulgur pilaff with steak and gravy, hashbrowns and bacon, and scones for tea. None of that was from dehydrated packs

 

[cyclist]

yes, Swedish soldiers on training with meth. spirits powered Optimus No. 88 "Jägarkök" (Ranger stove) - I don´t see a reason why the Swedish defence forces would publish a pic of Finnish soldiers ....
That stove is still available as Optimus No.91 "Tor"

I´ve seem the Finnish army using standard Trangias

Esbit stoves were issued to the German army during WWII, a SVEA 123 clone made by Barthel (and others) was also issued

Other armies also had specially made stoves - the best source for information is www.spiritburner.com

The latest in stove technology is probably the MSR liquid fuel stove with a ceramic pump element. The civi version was introduced on outdoor exibitions a while ago, I haven´t seen one in the stores so far

 

[Tadpole]

To all you trangia lovers:

I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?

Also, the swedish army has a stove (the trangia) especially made for them. Do other armies have stoves made for them too? Like a US army MSR stove?

And finally, was (is?) the stove basic issued to all swedish soldiers? Or just some units? And how did (do?) they transport it? In a pouch in the backpack?

Thanks,

Bjorn

I’ve got a trangia clone (£10 from eBay) and the things you can cook on it is limited only by your imagination. Ok I’ve never baked bread or a pie. But I have cooked (from scratch) stew and dumplings, pea and ham soup, full English breakfast, rice, steamed fish, mushrooms and liver. If you can get hold of one, a bamboo steamer is a great partner to the trangia, as you can boil a couple of litres of water for brews and the like, and at the same time cook your evening meal.
Steamed monkfish with ginger and spring onions, served with steamed white cabbage and black pepper, takes seven minutes from the water starting to boil to filling your face.

 

[Wavey Davey]

Tadpole. You're a man after my own heart. My Trangia highlights include a very French globe artichoke starter followed by a moules mariniere main, with several bottles of champagne whilst camping near Epernay. Also had a memorable ratatoulli with pasta to accompany foil-baked bass and black bream done with lemon and wild fennel on an instant bbq whilst in Southwold one year.
Cheers, David.

 

[Tadpole]

Tadpole. You're a man after my own heart. My Trangia highlights include a very French globe artichoke starter followed by a moules mariniere main, with several bottles of champagne whilst camping near Epernay. Also had a memorable ratatoulli with pasta to accompany foil-baked bass and black bream done with lemon and wild fennel on an instant bbq whilst in Southwold one year.
Cheers, David.

My grandfather used to tell me " if you'm roughin it lad, you'm doin it wrong" and I see no need to "rough it" with food.
Pasta with tomato and pesto, or spaghetti bolognaise, even ravioli is possible without resorting to tins and dehydrated food. 500grams of dried pasta, some tomatoes in olive oil, frozen Mincemeat, (it should have defrosted by the time you come to use it,) some fresh Parmigiano-Reggiano (not the horrid powered stuff the fresh hard cheese from Aldi £1.60p for a couple of ounces) and you are set up for at least four meals
Ok it takes about an hour on simmer, but who’s in a rush?

 

[addyb]

I gave up trying to use a Trangia in the wintertime ages ago. I think when it took nearly twenty minutes to melt a single pot of snow I came to my senses and went back to an MSR stove for winter trips.

Trangia's are definately three season stoves, in my opinion.

Adam

 

[cyclist]

I use my trangia for baking bread, homemade pasta (wheat flour, water, salt) requires less time compared to ready made stuff from the supermarket: boiling time is 1min and not 7-8min.

Melting snow on an alc. stove is no real problem - like every other stove it needs just a bit more fuel

 

[kai055]

on the british trangias, u can cook spag bol and other pasta based food and can run on both meths and gas other thing it is very heavy but very gd, couple of weeks ago me and some m8s used one when in hampshire and are very gd.

 

[spamel]

Hey Pablo, there is an adaptor for the crusader, it is a thin sheet of steel with the same shape as the crusader cut out and the edges bent over to give it rigidity. It stows over the hexi cooker perfectly and means you can put your cooker up without having to resort to the angled set up of the legs. They come as standard these days with the cooker and the hexi fuel all wrapped up in that brown waterproof paper.

Whe the crusader sits in the adaptor, the bottom of the cup pokes through and the cup is suspended at its mid point by virtue of the fact that the top part is wider. The cup therefore sits close to the hexi and gets very well heated.

If you want one of them, I'll have a look when I get back sausage side and send you one across, it will make your life so much easier if you use hexi cookers a lot.