Hassle when out

[Tony]

Pack it in guys, don't take this thread to places it shouldn't go...Umm, it's already there It's not ok discussing laying traps for people so stop and don't move on to another way of doing it that's just as bad.

Thanks

 

[Dougster]

Being Tony's forum he isn't going to come down heavy, but I'm sure it's that kind of post that gives BCUK the bad rep it's developing. At best it's bl00dy stupid.

Someone has a BB strapline of 'Think twice, post once' which I think is sound advice here.

Neck wires indeed.

 

[ArkAngel]

Anyhoo to get the thread back on track........

Hassle when out is the reason i jacked in my FAC and shotgun certificate.

I live in a rented cottage on a farm and had full permission from the farmer to shoot anywhere i saw fit on his land. I have worked with the Police in the past and always rang the main control room to let them know when and where i would be shooting to cover myself as much as possible.

However i still got a load of flack from walkers, dog walkers, mountain bikers etc etc.

Of course despite how aggressive they may be that cannot be reciprocated to them as YOU are carrying the weapon

I now avoid people like the plague when i am out practising my bushcraft skills and my knife and kit are well hidden out of site on my person.

Frankly...it sucks

 

[Dougster]

I must admit I have made all my sheathes double danglers and drop the knife into my pocket when I can. It's funny, strangers feel they can break the aggressive behaviour laws when you aren't breaking any.

There's funny.......

 

[korvin karbon]

when i was much younger i went camping on my own and had the joy of some scum bag neds deciding that instead of makign their own fire they would nick mine so until 4am in the morning i had these scum with me and being only 14-15 and them 14-25 in several cars etc etc i had not much choice but to try and get along. Revenge was super glueing their tent zips shut, immature and dangerous but heh treat others how you want to be treated.

 

[crazydave]

well done for being prepared and having superglue with you

I have found mountain bikers to be a pain when they are abusing rights of way and trashing allready muddy paths. when they come tearing down into a bunch of kids I am often tempted to spoke em as its downright selfish as well as being dangerous.

running a weekend incident hike in a forest one year we were plaqued by an idiot in a 4x4 who found it funny to spray the kids as he went past on ground too waterlogged to be supportive. retribution was finding him so deep in bog that he couldn't open the doors. he said he had no mobile signal and could we ring for help.

simple answer was no. we did know the guy who ran the local forestry endorsed 4x4 experience and let him know. he was aware of the scrote messing the trails up so charged him a grand to get him out

 

[big_swede]

string across the trails at bike neck height, rig an automatic spoke jammer or dig a bear pit for him

No, I don't want to be responsible for a death, just because the person ruined my sleep. It isn't really fair. Bad karma.

 

[alpha_centaur]

No, I don't want to be responsible for a death, just because the person ruined my sleep. It isn't really fair. Bad karma.

Well said.

Just out of interest what's the laws concerning trail biking in Sweden

 

[korvin karbon]

No, I don't want to be responsible for a death, just because the person ruined my sleep. It isn't really fair. Bad karma.

well my mummy and daddy told me to hit the bully back twice as hard, and then some so

to be true, you are correct. I think bushcraft people sometimes forget that their skillset allthough appears to be peaceful can quite easily be used in the wrong way, example is setting traps! do you reall think that the buckfast hammered ned has an IQ high enough to think of, nevermind construct a treadle spring snare any trap really.

Sadly every walk of life will encounter pond scum, it depends on how you deal with it and avoiding bringing yourself down to their level.

 

[big_swede]

Well said.

Just out of interest what's the laws concerning trail biking in Sweden

Depends on what you mean with trail biking, concerning bicycles it's permitted according to the commoners right, but not in all nature reserves, where the commoners right is usually somewhat limited. Motorised vehicles demands the land owners permission I think, not sure. The area where this guy roams is a nature reserve though, so he is breaking the law by terrorising travellers like me (and the wildlife).

 

[OurJud]

Not sure I would condone shooting them.

I would!

This kind of thing sickens me to the very pit of my stomach! I live in a town where I have to put up with them sauntering by my flat most nights, with their loud gobs. Or more than occassionaly putting through the windows of the bus stop a few yards from my front door.

The thought that I might encounter them in such a way, when in the one place I thought I could escape, makes me sadder than I can express.

 

[NatG]

don't be scared of al kids, i'm 18, unkempt, gobby and walk around nearly all thetime wearing a hoody, but if you were to fall donw and hurt yourself, i'd help, if i saw something being vandalised,or someone being beaten up, i'd stop it, I see my self as a responsible adult and as such i make calculated changes to my behaviour- everything i do i do because i want to, do not confuse youth with idiocy. There are some young people who are genuinely nasty, but then again there are just some PEOPLE who are generally nasty, it's npot a youth thing.

Don't be worried about kids on street corners, drunkenness and loud music, it's just kids being kids, be worried about 30 year old drug dealers.

 

[scoops_uk]

I've never had any hassle.

Having a nice walk before setting up my camp means I only see people who have enough about their character to go for a decent walk. If you camp just out of sight of the carpark then you will be in prime chav beer drinking range. Generally the calibre of stranger you meet improves with distance from the nearest road.

It's easy to succumb to fantasies of how you'd teach someone a lesson, the realities of violence inflicted injuries are not so fantastic.

Scoops

 

[Peter_t]

i try to go around unseen and try to avoid people as much as i can. if i come across someone that look like they could be trouble i take a dog leg to get around them. sometimes its hard not to draw attention to yourself thow such as useing an axe also you can get into a zone where your concentraiting hard on what your doing and are oblivious to whats going on around you. just stop frequently, have a look and lissen. dont desplay knives, axes etc to anyone, its just asking for trouble.
having company is usualy a toss up between being less vunerable to abuse and atracting more attention.
if they dont know your there they cant bother you, well it works for me

pete

 

[Wayland]

Post withdrawn.

 

[durulz]

I've never had any hassle.

Having a nice walk before setting up my camp means I only see people who have enough about their character to go for a decent walk. If you camp just out of sight of the carpark then you will be in prime chav beer drinking range. Generally the calibre of stranger you meet improves with distance from the nearest road.

It's easy to succumb to fantasies of how you'd teach someone a lesson, the realities of violence inflicted injuries are not so fantastic.

Scoops

Exactly! I live in the south east - the most densely populated part of the country. And we've never had any hassle or seen anyone for all the reasons mentioned above. Keep WELL away from the car parks/laybys/whatevers. Just find somewhere off the beaten track.
If I did see someone and thought, even for a fraction of a second they may have seen us, then we'd move on straight away.

 

[C_Claycomb]

Here we have a classic example of how impossible it is to make everyone happy all of the time. There have been times when a thread like this started, and one of the moderators jumped on it early, say right around where I made my post joking about man traps. At that point the moderator and the site as a whole gets pilloried for having no sense of humour and not allowing adults to carry on a conversation. So, in this case the thread is left and gets a little off the original topic, but that is what people say they want to be able to do. Posts are made ranging from the sensible to the wishful, but mostly brief descriptions of people's experiences and what has worked for them in those cases.

In any case, I think that some folk are reading more into other people's posts than the posters intended.

Personally, I love the idea of someone dangling a chav by heels up a tree if he was out to cause them hassle. I would love it even more if there were no further repercussions. That is different from advising the setting of spring traps as a sensible precaution to ensure an undisturbed night. I was trusting everyone to be able to make the same distinction. The same goes for some of the other stories related here. That someone has succeeded in turning the tables on their harassers, and everyone has lived to see another day, makes it a story worth retelling. Its not something that I have ever been able to pull off, but I do not begrudge others the chance to tell their stories.

 

[Dougster]

I'm turning into a grumpy old man in my mids 30s - I apologise.

Back on point - I have no idea how to stop an idiot chucking stones at you as you camp. That level of stupidity still surprises me every time I see it.

Getting up early and supergleing zips was just a perfect solution in my mind. Rep for that chap. I'm now going to ensure I have a tube each time I go out........mind.... then I'll never get any hassle or the chance to use it.

 

[alpha_centaur]

I'm turning into a grumpy old man in my mids 30s - I apologise.

Back on point - I have no idea how to stop an idiot chucking stones at you as you camp. That level of stupidity still surprises me every time I see it.

Getting up early and supergleing zips was just a perfect solution in my mind. Rep for that chap. I'm now going to ensure I have a tube each time I go out........mind.... then I'll never get any hassle or the chance to use it.

Yeah I thought that was quite amusing to...

 

[Jimcatt]

Super glue, penny and car locks comes to mind