Is there really any need for camoflage?
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I would be happy to support these local industries if I didn't have to pay over the odds for a reasonable quality The trousers I wear for work are nearly £30 each compared to army surplus at £10 or £12 a pair (not allowed camos at work "doesn't fit the company image") a reasonable water resistant jacket starting price for the lesser known makes £45 if you're looking for something that has a known quality you'd be starting at £60+ I would sooner push my way through a few brambles in a £20 ex army combat jacket than a £75 musto
No one did
Apart from the poor girl who did a serious double take. lol.
Would have been funny if you had been buying Veet. You could have just said "I'm trying to get rid of this bush"
i dont really mind cammo
it has its place i gues
i mush prefer old moleskin pants and a swanny yeah its green and i try and be the Grey may and not draw attention to myself especially if im skulking about in the small hours as i do ocasionally but generally cammo if im deer stalking and swanny for moching abooot
it has its place i gues
i mush prefer old moleskin pants and a swanny yeah its green and i try and be the Grey may and not draw attention to myself especially if im skulking about in the small hours as i do ocasionally but generally cammo if im deer stalking and swanny for moching abooot
Aye, that's one I like too. I have one of the original field shirts...the pattern is great and I love it, but damn what an awful strange cut thing that was which means I'll still chose my obsolete US woodland BDUs over it any day. Way more comfortable. No noisy velcro either. But the pattern was trialed by the US Gov from what they said. They seem to have taken alot of it overseas now though marketing mainly to the airsoft kiddies...which is a big big market!
as this is a bushcraft forum and not a walking/hiking forum then ex military surplus definatly has a place .
but as mentioned by others not a big fan of dpm but desert and euro camo im more likely to use
but as mentioned by others not a big fan of dpm but desert and euro camo im more likely to use
I agree with most people, wear what ya want, who cares. However, i cant stand the stuff no matter how cheap and cheerfull it is. I just cant get it out of my head that when ever I see someone wearing cammo they are just being walts. I know this is my problem and no one elses, but i consider dpm and those daft leather bahma hats fit for the bin.
Wearing camouflage as an everyday thing is going to draw attention to yourself. Certainly doesn't fit in metropolitan or big town areas and will make you stand out, but for roughing it, I've just always worn it. I wear DPM and some other foreign patterns for gardening, doing work on the house, hunting, rambling, bottle digging, etc I find these to be appropriate activities to warrant it's use as a durable form of clothing. I've got neutral colours that I wear too.
Jeans aren't really my cup of tea at all. I hate them. Some of them are cut for crotch-less, bottom-less folk and I'd rather wear my Vertx trousers all the time, but they just keep me looking relatively smart and casual for when the occasion arises.
Jeans aren't really my cup of tea at all. I hate them. Some of them are cut for crotch-less, bottom-less folk and I'd rather wear my Vertx trousers all the time, but they just keep me looking relatively smart and casual for when the occasion arises.
I usually wear camo in the bush, but only in the bush. My standard jungle wear is a pair of tan ripstop pants, T-shirt and my woodland pattern BDU jacket. Here in Brazil it is actually against the law to wear a full set of Brazilian camo if you aren't in the military. Top or bottom is fine just not the full set.
I think British Red is right about not putting too much stock into what people think. Sometimes you just have pull someone's nose out of your business and hand it back.
I think British Red is right about not putting too much stock into what people think. Sometimes you just have pull someone's nose out of your business and hand it back.
When you said it's illegal there it made me think of what the Marines have done here with the MAPAT camo. They patented it and get a percentage every time any is sold. Same thing LA Sheriff's Ofice did with it's logos when the Supreme Court said they couldn't restrict citizens from wearing it (as long as they weren't trying to impersonate police)
There's something similar in some parts of the Caribbean. Barbados is notorious for banning all forms of camouflage if you're not in the military and it's not unheard of for tourists just wearing some shorts with a fashion camo print on them to be hassled. I think they had trouble with people impersonating the military, hence the ban.
Interesting..............Most of the Aussie leather bush hats are made for tourists & export as very few people actually wear them in the Aussie bush, they much prefer felt lids.
I like them though, not Barmah hats in particular but leather bush hats in general. I've found nothing better for keeping the rain off...I also think they suit more people than other types of hat.... ..
And since we're talking camo..
How will wearing cammo draw attentions to yourself, I'm talking about the UK now and not the States, Africa or Brazil et al. Do YOU stare at people wearing cammo? if you do then your the one with a problem as the overweening majority of ordinary people couldn't give a flying fox what you wear and won't be sitting up in bed thinking about the horrid person in army clothes who had the audacity to walk out in public wearing the vile stuff who is obviously some psychotic/Walter Mitty/wannabe Rambo/SAS loon.
The problem is not if its OK to use cammo/is there a need for cammo, the problem should be "Why do I think there is a problem wearing cammo", your the problem, not the folk using it.
The problem is not if its OK to use cammo/is there a need for cammo, the problem should be "Why do I think there is a problem wearing cammo", your the problem, not the folk using it.
My wife asked me why I didn't just buy a black jacket instead of trying to dye my DPM smock black. I pointed out that the smock was free (nicked) and the dye was about £6. To buy an equivalent non-DPM smock would cost significantly more. Now it's a bit darker, I don't feel such a berk wearing it, even though it's blatantly still a camouflage jacket. Might cut the epaulettes off but it's so comfortable & practical I've no plans to replace it & would buy another one (it's a 94 pattern smock, I've seen them online for about £12)
I'm thinking of getting my oldest Godson a set of these www.cabinplace.com/camouflagebedding.htm I got his baby brother a pair of Army digital camo crib blankets from the military clothing sales store on the base (there's a new Green Beret base near me) One of my younger cousins had his mom do his room in Realtree camo about 10 years ago. The whole room; curtains, sheets, bedspread, wallpaper, etc. He joined the Marines as soon as he graduated high school.
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I think a lot of it is reletive really.
Many people buy ex-mil gear because it's usually well made & time proven in terms of both quality & functionality.
It's also fairly readilly available at reasonable cost.
For many years I resisted wearing camo as I din't want to get lumped in with the 'Urban Soldier' ****ers.
However, I do now use it, mainly for hunting, as the quality of generally affordable hunting gear has dropped dramatically with the rise of cheap, asian made clothing. Yeah you can still buy premium quality stuff that's absolutely brilliant, but for the guy that wants to buy clothing that might get a bit muddy/grimmy/bloody, etc and doesn't want to wear his RM Williams, Rod & Gunn, stuff etc, the quality of generally affordable clothing suitable for such use is woeful IMO.
These days I also tend toward more Blaze Orange hunting clothing as the number of guys deer huntiung, etc is on the rise & I have a distinct dislike for 180gn, 30.06 projectiles whizzing around my ears, or having #4 duck pellets showering me on a swamp.
However, for general hiking, etc where keeping hidden (or attemnpting to) from animal sight isn't an issue I now tend toward more colourful clothing, especially in colder, snowy weather, etc. "All the better to find me with m'dear". If (god forbid) something bad does ever befall me when I'm hiking in the hills, I really don't want the authorities trying in vain to spot me laying in heavy brush wearing full camo stuff.
So, it's good & bad, but a bit o'common sense goes a long way with it also.
Bill.
Many people buy ex-mil gear because it's usually well made & time proven in terms of both quality & functionality.
It's also fairly readilly available at reasonable cost.
For many years I resisted wearing camo as I din't want to get lumped in with the 'Urban Soldier' ****ers.
However, I do now use it, mainly for hunting, as the quality of generally affordable hunting gear has dropped dramatically with the rise of cheap, asian made clothing. Yeah you can still buy premium quality stuff that's absolutely brilliant, but for the guy that wants to buy clothing that might get a bit muddy/grimmy/bloody, etc and doesn't want to wear his RM Williams, Rod & Gunn, stuff etc, the quality of generally affordable clothing suitable for such use is woeful IMO.
These days I also tend toward more Blaze Orange hunting clothing as the number of guys deer huntiung, etc is on the rise & I have a distinct dislike for 180gn, 30.06 projectiles whizzing around my ears, or having #4 duck pellets showering me on a swamp.
However, for general hiking, etc where keeping hidden (or attemnpting to) from animal sight isn't an issue I now tend toward more colourful clothing, especially in colder, snowy weather, etc. "All the better to find me with m'dear". If (god forbid) something bad does ever befall me when I'm hiking in the hills, I really don't want the authorities trying in vain to spot me laying in heavy brush wearing full camo stuff.
So, it's good & bad, but a bit o'common sense goes a long way with it also.
Bill.
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