Is there really any need for camoflage?

[Paul72]

Each to their own in my book. I usually wear the bushcrafters uniform of olive green as I found it still blends you in while not spooking those nervous mountain bikers I've come across when they they see someone in camo. I do have camo gear but that's mostly because I'm an ex airsofter and decided I'd keep the stuff that was useful for bushcrafting and the outdoors! My US woodland goretex jacket works as well as any expensive jackets on the market so why dump it?

 

[Cpt-Jack]

I have a pair of British DPM trousers which i sometimes wear if i am out and about, partly because they are so damn comfortable, but also from an "aesthetic" point of view i actually quite like the way camo looks. To be brutally frank, i dont give rats **** what impression i give off to people and i refuse to pander to their irrational insecurities by changing the way i choose dress. Im sure most people really dont care at all, but if anyone does want to believe i am some survivalist nutjob, then so be it (they are half right anyway, i will leave it up to you to decide which half they are right about ).

I dont like brightly coloured clothing, so even if i got rid of my camo trousers not much is going to change, most of my wardrobe consists of greens, tans, browns, blacks and generally natural earthy colours. Im still going to blend in with nature at the end of the day.

Having said that, there are places where you should probably avoid wearing DPM like the plague, Northern Ireland is one example i can think of, for obvious reasons. There are countries where it is illegal for civilians to wear camo, particularly Central/South American and Caribbean countries.

 

[Paul72]

Having said that, there are places where you should probably avoid wearing DPM like the plague, Northern Ireland is one example i can think of, for obvious reasons.

It's not such an issue here as it once was, I've seen plenty of people wearing it.

 

[gbjim03m]

Really? Are you serving at the moment? The bergan is a solid piece of kit and the boots these days are top notch, there are always guys who want stuff which is just a little bit (to them) better.
Colin

Well, im currently sat in, wait for it, in the new "multi terrain pattern, personal clothing system" issued to all UK serving abroad. To say im impressed is an under statement. designed for fighting in as opposed to walking round in, the kit is superb. All contoured to fit designed to go under the new body armour.The pockets have all been moved to accommodate trying to get stuff out of your pockets wearing body armour. We have padded trousers to protect the you know whats. Micro-bioligcal underpants to stop them festering, and i have lowa and meindl boots. The kit only improves if we feedback, I agree some bits of kit dont always last long but we can go to stores and get replacements.

The pattern is not to horrid either and will eventually replace both green,desert for just one type.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Multi_Terrain_Pattern.png

Is camouflage needed? well in my job yes, but in bushcraft.....your choice!!

 

[Tristar777]

Where what you want when you want. Dont care what sheeple think!

 

[Large Sack]

Don't really care what people wear, sartorial elegance isn't exactly top of the agenda where I live. However, as someone who once worked with colour and shape (graphic designer) I cannot stand the DPM pattern. I understand the thinking and science behind it, but the result is awful on the eye (fussy bugger ). Personal preference only, and certainly not preaching, just chipping in. The only camo I have is one pair of camo trews and they're the newer Swiss camo ...far more pleasing to my eye, plus they are the Arktis version, which open up all over the place and enable a quick exit and entry...just in case. However, this time of year I'm usually wearing shorts and a tee-shirt...with a poncho, natch

Cheers
Sack

 

[Deleted dude 7861]

I started off wearing cheap dpm stuff as it was ideal for bushcraft but soon felt an idiot, so now I tend to wear olive or go for a different countries camo. I never wear full camo just a pair of trousers or jacket. My favourite bit of kit is my US ecwcs goretex jacket as somebody said above they are just fantastic so why replace it.

I will admit to being a bit of a mad camo collector though...I'll get me (camo) coat...

 

[Laurentius]

I wear my old Soldier 95 Camo jacket on my allotment. Do I need to hide? of course not, it's not the pattern that matters, it is the utility of the thing, all those pockets. I wouldn't really care if it were psychedelic tie die so long as it does what it says on the tin. Quite simply nobody makes any fancy goretex rubbish with the same utility or cheapness as ex military stuff. I recently wore it for a visit to 10 Downing Street along with my cloth cap and there were no raised eyebrows that I noticed.

 

[Vulpes]

Where I spend my time away around central Europe, surplus kit is something you wear for it's utilitarian purposes - when working on the car, working in the garden, walking the dog in the wasteland, shooting boar and no one looks at you twice for doing it. People have got a pretensious attitude to things like that in this country.

 

[British Red]

Can I suggest we consolidate a number of these "kit police" threads into a single consolidated thread on what is deemed acceptable for those who set themlves up as self appointed judges of "liberal minded equipment acceptability"?

Perhaps a "socially acceptable equipment manifest" in a little red book?

 

[Retired Member southey]

Can I suggest we consolidate a number of these "kit police" threads into a sigle consolidated thread on what is deemed acceptable for those who set themlves up as self appointed judges of "liberal minded equipment acceptability"?

Perhaps a "socially acceptable equipment manifest" in a little red book?

 

[British Red]

Well for goodness sake

Don't have fires
Don't cut trees
Don't kill the wickle animals
Don't wear cammo
Don't use axes

I'm frankly sick to death of the thought police who want to go for a nice stroll along a marked footpath wearing a bobble hat!

 

[matty1967]

Swedish M90 pattern. The only one worth wearing. Or Dancam. Or that weird canadian one.. O.k. Im a camo fan! But not dpm. It is awful and makes you look like a baddy from an eighties cop show.

lookup pencott,by hyde definition

 

[Laurentius]

Where I spend my time away around central Europe, surplus kit is something you wear for it's utilitarian purposes - when working on the car, working in the garden, walking the dog in the wasteland, shooting boar and no one looks at you twice for doing it. People have got a pretensious attitude to things like that in this country.

My point exactly, it is functional, disposable and cheap.

 

[lucan]

I wear dpm trousers for work, They're hard wearing and cheap and more comfy than jeans, When i'm out and about it's usually greens, navy blues and black, people wear what they feel most comfy in i suppose.

I'm probably gonna get dirty and wet and stinking of smoke, and lets be Honest it sometimes turns into a bit of a fashion show what with all the Fjallraven, 5.11 and the other " Designer" Bushcraft labels etc, So i wear Surplus, People are sometimes too quick to label a person for wearing dpm i find.

 

[rik_uk3]

I'm frankly sick to death of the thought police who want to go for a nice stroll along a marked footpath wearing a bobble hat!

Well said that man.

 

[Deleted dude 7861]

Swedish M90 pattern. The only one worth wearing.

Oh yeah...now we're talking

The way I see camo is the same way people see their favourite colour in clothing. To me I like the design and colour, it just appeals to my liking. Danish, Swedish and Norwegian are just great.

 

[British Red]

Thank you Richard - I have - self moderated - no offense intended. I do despair of these threads of "don't use an axe", "don't have a fire", "don't make a shelter", "don't wear cammo".

When I want peoples advice on how to conduct myself, within the law on and on my own land (or land where the landowner has given me permission), I'll ask for it.

In the meantime, I wish those who seek to impose yet further restrictions on the limited freedom left to us, would spend a little more time doing, and a little less time regulating others.

Ta mate

Red

 

[Twodogs]

Well said........

 

[johnboy]

Can I suggest we consolidate a number of these "kit police" threads into a single consolidated thread on what is deemed acceptable for those who set themlves up as self appointed judges of "liberal minded equipment acceptability"?

Perhaps a "socially acceptable equipment manifest" in a little red book?

Surely it already exists Red... But it's mainly blue and green......