Ebay SAS WWII Smock

[Pandabean]

I saw these whilst looking for a smock and was wondering if anyone has tried them and if they are any good?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SAS-W...tem9bffe40856&clk_rvr_id=297499647482&afsrc=1


They seem to be sold by Silvermans or so I have heard.

BLACK/SAND - 1940 pattern, excellent remake. Made to exacting style and detail of the original smock.
The material is a heavy duty cotton drill. The sand colour is exact and once used and washed a few times will start to look like an original. The black version is exactly the same but in black.
Please note the following: the reinforcement patch on the left sleeve should be covering the elbow and underside of the forearm; however, during manufacture, the manufacturers copied our sample of a genuine WWII sand smock that had the patch rotated around the arm so the patch is covering the side and top of the forearm. We did not notice this and the factory copied it exactly. This does not affect the performance of this smock in any way and we are not sure if this was originally made for a special purpose, as a lot of special forces WWII kit was adapted by certain units to their own requirements.

 

[blacktimberwolf]

I don't know anything about these 'smocks' but £60 for a copy of a 1940 SAS smock ( the SAS were created in 1941 & it's doubtful they had smocks straight away) is just taking the ****.
Notice they say remake & not copy or recreation of & not even in the original fabric.

 

[Miyagi]

Not used them, but they remind me of the Rhodesian (Selous Scout) or Portuguese disruptive pattern rather than the Dennison type..

They look a bit bright to me but as the blurb says, will dull after a wash.

Liam

 

[kawasemi]

Silverman's carry some good stock but they do tend to be on the pricey side of things. I have noticed that some items they have had for sale over the years have been ridiculously expensive - £40 for a £10 canvas satchel etc.

Customer service is...okay.

kawasemi

 

[kawasemi]

I don't know anything about these 'smocks' but £60 for a copy of a 1940 SAS smock ( the SAS were created in 1941 & it's doubtful they had smocks straight away) is just taking the ****.
Notice they say remake & not copy or recreation of & not even in the original fabric.

...they'll sell you an original...only £750

http://www.silvermans.co.uk/Product...IZE+3/ItemId/14222/CurrentPage/1/Default.aspx

kawasemi

 

[blacktimberwolf]

Could be silverman's ebay site as same blurb, same price ...http://www.silvermans.co.uk/Product...COPY+SAS+1940+SMOCK/ItemId/12592/Default.aspx

 

[blacktimberwolf]

...they'll sell you an original...only £750



kawasemi

Original what ?.........they don't give much away in the description......

 

[blacktimberwolf]

Doesn't " will fade with washing " mean that the manufacturers haven't used colourfast dyes ?

 

[andybysea]

Yes i had one when i did reenacting,well made and colours didnt run as per last post i think they mean it will look more like a original when wore in, i found it a little short in the body(fits fine just not like the original which was slightly longer fitting) but in 6'3'' i had been thinking about getting one of the sand ones recently, the materials are much tougher and well made than WPG'S from the states that i also had,the camo isnt dennison pattern Miyagi it was issue a a camo windproof for European theatre,the original ones in desert form where made from Egyptian cotton,and the cammo ones gaberdine i think these are a smooth tight weeve drill if i remember correctly i agree with silvermans being over priced i bought two ww2 civi canvas shoulder bags years ago from there for £2.50 each,now they want over £20 each for them other stuff is well to expensive, soldier of fortune used to sell the exact same smock dont know if they still do though.

 

[Pandabean]

Thanks Andy I just had a look at SOF and wish I hadn't now. Lots of nice goodies

They seem to have nice Brittish Snow Smocks as well which I have been looking for in a small size....not the tent sized Swedish ones.

I can't link to the page but the have one that looks similar to the one I linked to at the start for £29.99

Would this be the same or similar type one? It does say it is in a lightweight cotton instead.

Didn't realise I could paste things in like this.....

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[TD]British Smock Drab made in a lightweight cotton fabric in the classic windproof smock design.
Headover design which was originally used by the Mountain troops, but also favoured by soldiers in North Africa

• Fixed hood
• 4 pockets
• Drawstring waist

3 Sizes available

• Size 3 to fit 40/42
• Size 5 to fit 44/46
• Size 7 to fit 48/50

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[blacktimberwolf]

ignore this...

 

[woof]

I've got the sand one. They are are short in the length, but width fitting is good. They are more of a heavy weight shirt than a jacket. I like mine, wore from feb, with a swannie underneath.
I have since fitted a neck zip. I would say the are good for spring to autumn.

Rob

 

[snozz]

This is the smock you want ...! http://www.centralgroupuk.com/ebolcastle/extremecc/wed.htm

 

[Gill]

I have an original 1942 sand one ,i have been considering selling they are good pieces of kit.

 

[Miyagi]

Me want!!!

Liam

 

[woof]

This is the smock you want ...! http://www.centralgroupuk.com/ebolcastle/extremecc/wed.htm

There was a thread on here some time ago about these, did any one get one ?.

Rob

 

[andybysea]

Pandabean,dont think the sof desert ones are the same quality as the silvermans camo ones,sof used to sell the camo ones but dont seem to anymore,nice original Gill i used to have one made from plain sand coloured gaberdine(wish i hadnt sold it)Silvermans used to sell the original desert ones for 80 quid they now want 200 notes.

 

[Gill]

QUOTE=andybysea;1010145]Pandabean,dont think the sof desert ones are the same quality as the silvermans camo ones,sof used to sell the camo ones but dont seem to anymore,nice original Gill i used to have one made from plain sand coloured gaberdine(wish i hadnt sold it)Silvermans used to sell the original desert ones for 80 quid they now want 200 notes.[/QUOTE]
If they have them ,i would sell it for nowhere near £200.

 

[Rabbitsmacker]

i've seen the sof ones at a show, very thin, don't think they are meant for practical use as much as re-enactment. the silvermans ones are very thick, fairly open weave cotton, i had one and found it quite heavy, very soft, but what windproofing it had was gained thru thickiness of material. the camo smock from silvermans is different to the plain ones, higher quality cotton but, not very windproof again. can't beat an orignal. my original sas snow smock variant is made of a heavy duty denim type cotton, and is very windproof.

 

[The Lord Poncho]

I have had a Silvermans camo one for a few years- I really like it actually. They do come up short- but i believe the originals do too. I lengthened mine by a few inches- by unpicking the bottom hem, ironing it flat, then sewing a strip of cotton in behind to provide the bottom drawcord with a channel. You can't tell from the outside. I also put a short zip at the neck, so it can be opened out a little more for ventilation. I love the retro look about it,especially now its a little faded, and often use it for hill walking etc, as well as for grabbing rabbits as the big bold shapes in the old camo pattern are pretty effective.