Ok so I'm looking into getting a new swiss army knife, Victorinox swiss army knife that is. I've narrowed the choices down to two, a camper or a farmer. I have a spartan already but I'm looking for something that may have some more woodsy uses such as a saw but I'm wondering, is the farmer worth getting if it doesn't have some of the tools that the camper does? I've heard it's tougher and the knife is a bit bigger on the farmer so do you think that makes up for the missing tools or should I just get a spartan with a saw (camper). I've been thinking about this for a while and since I read the thread on who owns a swiss army knife I figured you folks could probably help me decide. So what do you think?