I love old folklore and have recently been reading about the old weather predictions. What do you reckon this winter will be like, what signs do you see to support your theory,and what folklore predictions do you reckon have legs, ...or not?
What sort of winter do you predict?
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Since the spring & summer were remarkably cool & wet this year (for my region) & september temps are struggling to reach 20°C, logic would say that winter is going to be pretty harsh but I put my money on it being relatively mild but wetter than it has been these past years, wth a few short cold snaps. We haven't had snow since march 2016, so fingers crossed for this winter.
We can't really use the old weather sayings anymore because weather patterns are no longer dependable.
We can't really use the old weather sayings anymore because weather patterns are no longer dependable.
Agree, I would predict a wet, dull and drizzly Winter. Here in the W Midlands we’ve had very light covering of snow that didn’t last 24 hours for the last ten years. Haven’t built a snowman for more than 20 years.
I’m not sure that the old lore covers a warmer climate.
There is some science behind:
Ash before oak, summer’s a soak.
Oak before Ash summer’s a splash.
Oak leaf bud burst is predominantly related to day length, which is constant.
Ash leaf bud burst is more related to day degrees; the number of days the temperature remains above some datum that I don’t know. This could happen earlier or later in the spring. Basically is saying early warm spring = dry summer.
This won’t help predict winter.
I’m not sure that the old lore covers a warmer climate.
There is some science behind:
Ash before oak, summer’s a soak.
Oak before Ash summer’s a splash.
Oak leaf bud burst is predominantly related to day length, which is constant.
Ash leaf bud burst is more related to day degrees; the number of days the temperature remains above some datum that I don’t know. This could happen earlier or later in the spring. Basically is saying early warm spring = dry summer.
This won’t help predict winter.
My money, if I were to bet on it, would be on a very variable winter: mostly warm, wet and windy but with occasional blasts of icy wind blowing in from the north pole via northern Russia then across Europe into the East Coast... another "beast from the east".
This will probably mean that the icy blast will come on the heels of a lot of rain, and standing water left by that will freeze in enormous puddles. Parts of East Anglia will turn in to a skating rink.
This will probably mean that the icy blast will come on the heels of a lot of rain, and standing water left by that will freeze in enormous puddles. Parts of East Anglia will turn in to a skating rink.
I am expecting some more consistent cold this year, for no scientific reason other than I just feel that way.
Have already had more of the lovely crisp, autumnal mornings here than we got last year in North Lincs.
Have already had more of the lovely crisp, autumnal mornings here than we got last year in North Lincs.
Well, looking at the news, I would expect Plagues of Locusts and the odd Mushroom Cloud or two...
Well I saw a council snow plough & gritter lorry out today, probably practicing for the winter.
So I predict a mild one with some heavy snow in late spring after the gritters have been stood down.
So I predict a mild one with some heavy snow in late spring after the gritters have been stood down.
I am thinking it might be different this year to last couple of years, I read somewhere that we moving from an El Nino to a La Nina cycle.
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That's a good point. I'm looking at the ex hurricanes coming over from the states towards us.
They have been horrific for those in the path, completely destroying many communities, and florida is about to get totaly whammed in the next one that is about to hit, I think we are in for some rough weather, and the met office are predicting snow in October. Thank goodness I finished making my mini pulk last year, may get to use it after all to haul groceries etc.
I'm pretty well stocked in food, candles, batteries and camping gas. Plenty of books, and wool to craft with, my jackery is fully charged, as are my minni power banks. Just invested in a solar luci light, and picked up a few more logs to add to my store.
I feel safe enough that I can ride out any adverse weather, and power cuts, stay warm and fed. That's what matters in the end.
Just need powdered milk to add to my stores, as, if we get cut off, (which has happened several times before) milk and bread are the first things to go.
Bread Is easy. My loaves take two hours from getting out the bowl to getting out the cooling tray but I’m only doing anything for about ten minutes of the whole job. I make it in the bowl so no mess. I make with enough oil that it doesn’t need butter.
25K of strong flour will see me though six months. 5 litres of olive oil may take a mortgage! The bread will freeze but it’s not as good s as fresh. I give away the occasional excess or request.
A sharing community can get through most things including a hard winter.
25K of strong flour will see me though six months. 5 litres of olive oil may take a mortgage! The bread will freeze but it’s not as good s as fresh. I give away the occasional excess or request.
A sharing community can get through most things including a hard winter.
I have a wheat intolerance, so bread isn't a worry for me. I stock up on rice cakes and oatcakes, plus gluten free crisp breads.
I can tolerate a couple of ryveta now and then as they are mostly rye, and they actualy make a good base for eggs or beans on toast. Handy to stock up on as an alternative to bread for those that eat it.
I have a recipe for oatflour soda bread somewhere, ( if i can find it!) so a good stock of oats is a good idea. You can grind them down to a rough flour using a hand coffee grinder or spong mincer if needed.
I can tolerate a couple of ryveta now and then as they are mostly rye, and they actualy make a good base for eggs or beans on toast. Handy to stock up on as an alternative to bread for those that eat it.
I have a recipe for oatflour soda bread somewhere, ( if i can find it!) so a good stock of oats is a good idea. You can grind them down to a rough flour using a hand coffee grinder or spong mincer if needed.
Try putting something over the top to stop stuff flying out.
I have a tall jug which I use a circle of paper with a slit to be able to wrap around the blitzer and down the side of the jug, which I hold in place (or you could use a rubber band) and with a rough circle cut to accommodate the blitzing wand in the centre. It's not perfect, but saves a lot of mess.
Wet! It’s been chucking it down, last night and this morning and really smashing it down at the moment.
Still, I have dug out an unworn Snugpak poncho that I’d forgotten about, and in typical ‘me’ fashion already bought a Helikon one to toggle up with the Swagman roll. Now I’m at that happy/annoying dilemma of which to keep. The Helikon is cool, but it lacks the very sensible sleeves of the Snugpak. It’s a better size for me, less snagging and tripping on the hem, but it lacks sleeves. Out in this at the moment, just in from taking the dog for a wee, my jumper sleeves are soaked. But the Snugpak is a giant bag…decisions, decisions.
Yes, it was bad here last night too. I have been thinking about ponchos recently, wondering if they're a better solution than a coat for hiking. I'm guessing ventilation is way better negating the need for permeable materials. How well do they work when you're wearing a backpack?Wet! It’s been chucking it down, last night and this morning and really smashing it down at the moment.
Still, I have dug out an unworn Snugpak poncho that I’d forgotten about, and in typical ‘me’ fashion already bought a Helikon one to toggle up with the Swagman roll. Now I’m at that happy/annoying dilemma of which to keep. The Helikon is cool, but it lacks the very sensible sleeves of the Snugpak. It’s a better size for me, less snagging and tripping on the hem, but it lacks sleeves. Out in this at the moment, just in from taking the dog for a wee, my jumper sleeves are soaked. But the Snugpak is a giant bag…decisions, decisions.
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