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Wayland

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I treated myself to a second Eccles Protector lamp.

A splendid piece of engineering.
 
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Could you please try the link again - I am just getting '404 error'

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C_Claycomb

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Hmm. Me too. Tried everything and nothing makes the link, well, link. However, copy and paste into the URL bar and it takes you there no problem.
 

daveO

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I treated myself to a second Eccles Protector lamp.

A splendid piece of engineering.

I don't suppose you happen to be a leading authority on lamps do you? I've got one that I found in my gran's house after she died and would like to know where it came from. It's got a plaque saying E. Thomas & Williams Ltd but no model number or anything helpful like that. It looks different to the ones I've found on-line. I've been wanting to polish it up and light it one day but I'm not sure if it's just for decorative use.

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Wayland

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I don't suppose you happen to be a leading authority on lamps do you? I've got one that I found in my gran's house after she died and would like to know where it came from. It's got a plaque saying E. Thomas & Williams Ltd but no model number or anything helpful like that. It looks different to the ones I've found on-line. I've been wanting to polish it up and light it one day but I'm not sure if it's just for decorative use.

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I'm afraid I am no expert and that is not one I've seen before.

I take it you have seen this web page?

Might be worth talking to the National Mining Museum, they might be able to tell you something.
 

daveO

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I'm afraid I am no expert and that is not one I've seen before.

I take it you have seen this web page?

Might be worth talking to the National Mining Museum, they might be able to tell you something.

I saw that one. Most of their lamps seem to have the large oval plaque like the one shown there but I can't find any that match this one. Big Pit national coal museum is only a mile or so from my house as the raven flies actually so that's a good idea. Sadly I'm not a raven and there's a big mountain in the way but it's only a 20 minute drive or a 2 hour hike.
 
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Nomad64

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I saw that one. Most of their lamps seem to have the large oval plaque like the one shown there but I can't find any that match this one. Big Pit national coal museum is only a mile or so from my house as the raven flies actually so that's a good idea. Sadly I'm not a raven and there's a big mountain in the way but it's only a 20 minute drive or a 2 hour hike.

+1 for Big Pit Museum.

FWIW I have one I inherited which I’m pretty sure is a reproduction one (or at least one never intended to be used underground) which is by the same maker and does have a bigger plate which includes a serial number. Works just fine - just like a more sophisticated hurricane lamp.

Not much to go wrong with them and no reason why it can’t be used.

Lovely things. :)
 

daveO

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Not much to go wrong with them and no reason why it can’t be used.

I don't know about that. According to the website link above:

"The company continues to operate from a factory in Robertstown, having moved there after their Aberdare premises were destroyed by fire in 1978."

I'm sure it wasn't connected to their lamps... :angelic2:
 

Macaroon

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I don't suppose you happen to be a leading authority on lamps do you? I've got one that I found in my gran's house after she died and would like to know where it came from. It's got a plaque saying E. Thomas & Williams Ltd but no model number or anything helpful like that. It looks different to the ones I've found on-line. I've been wanting to polish it up and light it one day but I'm not sure if it's just for decorative use.

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I've got one by the same makers that I know to have been a working lamp, and it is a little different to yours; I think they've made them for years like yours that folks could buy at the mining museum and places like that and as far as I know they are perfectly functional and will last as long as those certifird to go underground.

Mine, however, is no longer functional as when I went to put it back on it's shelf I dropped it and shattered the glass, so I'm off to try and source a replacement........:bawling:
 

Nomad64

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I don't know about that. According to the website link above:

"The company continues to operate from a factory in Robertstown, having moved there after their Aberdare premises were destroyed by fire in 1978."

I'm sure it wasn't connected to their lamps... :angelic2:

Could have been sabotage by the rival lot from Lancs who made Wayland’s!

Pretty sure mine is the 4120 model on the companies website.

http://www.welshminerslamps.com/miners_lamps_fullsize.shtml

Yours looks pretty authentic and has a wick - the purely ornamental are the R02/3 shown on the company’s website and are only 3” tall.

Perhaps test it outside! ;)
 

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