Ventile Poncho
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'The crows continually infesting Oetzi's
garden called for drastic measures'
No s***
The crows and our dog are battling it out continually.
They dive down over him and "bomb" him with small sticks.
He tries to catch them as soon as they try to land in the garden.
Hi, a bite late a few pics of a USSR army poncho with the hood in the corner. Hope this might help.
Topknot.
Third picture isn't showing for some reason. How does it work? Is this the one that Jude Law was cutting about in in Enemy at the Gates?
Wierd, the third pic is working now! Still not sure how it is used, but t sure looks interesting!
If Oetzi had known he was going to get this much grief about his attire he would have smiled for the photo...
S0rry mate
JFW
Roight.
Dave at Hilltrek has now reviewed the NATO Poncho. Here is his response:
"Based on this design with a double ventile hood and double ventile shoulders we could offer a price of £110 inclusive of VAT.
I am afraid that it is difficult to get under this price because of the cost of Ventile fabric.
It may be that the stud arrangement and rings at each corner would have to be altered to suit our standard components.( The NATO poncho has studs which can be mated at both sides to enable several ponchos to be connected together. It also has several rings around the outside so that the poncho can be tied to objects)
As I said previously we would make a sample for you to test"
Thoughts everyone. Who is interested at this price?
Dave at Hilltrek has now reviewed the NATO Poncho. Here is his response:
"Based on this design with a double ventile hood and double ventile shoulders we could offer a price of £110 inclusive of VAT.
I am afraid that it is difficult to get under this price because of the cost of Ventile fabric.
It may be that the stud arrangement and rings at each corner would have to be altered to suit our standard components.( The NATO poncho has studs which can be mated at both sides to enable several ponchos to be connected together. It also has several rings around the outside so that the poncho can be tied to objects)
As I said previously we would make a sample for you to test"
Thoughts everyone. Who is interested at this price?
thanks for finding out about this (and thanks to Hilltrek for going with it);
I initially thought £110 a bit steep for this poncho, but if you compare it to Hilltreks own 'Braemar Single Ventile® Windshirt' (also £110, which is also cheaper than at least one other rival companies version), I suppose the price is pretty fair as the poncho is going to be a limited run and they are going to be making up new patterns etc. from scratch.
The proposed poncho is also going to be double layered on the hood and shoulders. I can imagine there may be as much work to do to produce a Ventile poncho as a single skin jacket.
The results of the test of the preliminary item will be the decider for me.
I initially thought £110 a bit steep for this poncho, but if you compare it to Hilltreks own 'Braemar Single Ventile® Windshirt' (also £110, which is also cheaper than at least one other rival companies version), I suppose the price is pretty fair as the poncho is going to be a limited run and they are going to be making up new patterns etc. from scratch.
The proposed poncho is also going to be double layered on the hood and shoulders. I can imagine there may be as much work to do to produce a Ventile poncho as a single skin jacket.
The results of the test of the preliminary item will be the decider for me.
Thanks for comments. If you could also vote in the Poll aswell. Then I can see if this is goer. Basha - thanks for your balanced view.
Someone may want to correct me on this, but I had a quick search on Ventile material retail prices; one company sells P80 Ventile at approx. £17 per sq. metre.
I estimate there must be around 4 sq. metres of fabric in a this poncho (including double hood and shoulders); so that would be around £68 just for the material if I were to buy it !!!!
I estimate there must be around 4 sq. metres of fabric in a this poncho (including double hood and shoulders); so that would be around £68 just for the material if I were to buy it !!!!
Sounds like a reasonable price to me and I think this would be a useful thing to have, but as others have said I'd like to find out about people's experiences of the sample before deciding. Thanks for all the work on this. I voted in favour anyway.
Chris
Chris
Sounds about right for price. I'd be interested in some dimensions and info about fixing points as it's only a real runner if it's replacing a jacket and a tarp for me though.
I do keep wondering about the hood. I don't use hoods much as I wear a wide leather hat.
The only use it has for me is to tie up and seal the centre when I'm sleeping under it.
When thinking about my own design I was going to replace it with a tube like collar and a draw string.
Would that be cheaper to make....
I do keep wondering about the hood. I don't use hoods much as I wear a wide leather hat.
The only use it has for me is to tie up and seal the centre when I'm sleeping under it.
When thinking about my own design I was going to replace it with a tube like collar and a draw string.
Would that be cheaper to make....
Aproximate weight and planned dimensions are the two informations I would like to have.
I am very interested.
I am very interested.
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