To Approach a Controversial Subject
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Originally Posted by Stringmaker
To lighten the tone a little I have a suggestion:
There is obviously a gap in the gaming market.
What is needed is "World of Bushcraft"
Level 1 is where you enter the dark scary wood with just a box of matches and a knife and try not to get killed by anything or anyone lurking within.
The possibilities are as endless as current games; you add skills, knowledge, experience and thus gain extra lives, credibility and status. There will be networking options so you can compare your shelter building skills with your on-line buddies and laugh at their spoon carving.
Just remember where you heard the idea first
Its already done(ish). Minecraft and survival craft; there was another I think that was better graphics but I cant remeber the name, there was a thread a while back about it.
surely you start with all the kit you could need and more in a massive bergen and the aim of the game is to lighten the load, ending up with just a knife?
I know I got off on the wrong foot with you, Shaggystu, but let's make that right. I know that you're just having a laugh and teasing, but I don't think that type of post is really necessary. The person to whom I wrote that agrees with me that it's best to read threads. He wasn't annoyed at me for saying that. You know what I meant so please don't try to turn it against me.
Thanks for your advice earlier on.
Hey! I have been involved with all! Of his started threads, until i need sleep, alarm goes off run downstairs at roughly 6.00am, switch the computermebob on as the kettle is boiling, and eagerly await catching up, imagine my shock when this morning, not a trace!
Tonight i am going to see this one to the end, and remember any bets struck must be honoured.
Ivan...
Tonight i am going to see this one to the end, and remember any bets struck must be honoured.
Ivan...
Will we call it there, Ivan buddy? I think this thread has been extremely insightful and there have been a lot of great posts made by everyone.
Thanks again.
No I'm not, you asked me earlier what I found offensive, I'm simply answering your question.
We haven't really got off on any foot, as I pointed out earlier you're simply a stranger on the the internet, you could equally be a normal teenager or an offensive little troll. I said that clearly. I have no opinion of you, please don't assume that I have.
I really didn't mean to upset you... You took a part of my post and made it clear that you found what I said to be offensive. I argued that what I said was perfectly normal advice for anyone and I didn't see how it could possibly be offensive. I told that one person that it's probably best to read threads and he agreed with me and thanked me for the advice. You, on the other hand, told me that you found what I told him to be offensive, interpreting my words as if I was "telling him what to do", which sounds rather ill of me...
So, with that cleared up, I hope you'll understand.
I do however detect a slight passive aggressiveness towards me, but as you can see I've been entirely polite throughout this very long thread and I hope to make things right with you and several others.
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I really didn't mean to upset you... You took a part of my post and made it clear that you found what I said to be offensive. I argued that what I said was perfectly normal advice for anyone and I didn't see how it could possibly be offensive. I told that one person that it's probably best to read threads and he agreed with me and thanked me for the advice. You, on the other hand, told me that you found what I told him to be offensive, interpreting my words as if I was "telling him what to do", which sounds rather ill of me...
So, with that cleared up, I hope you'll understand.
I never said, implied, intimated, hinted towards, or suggested in any way shape or form that I was upset, I'm not, at all. I simply find a lot of what you say, and the way that you say it, to be offensive. I also find Bernard Manning offensive, I'm not upset by him though, don't confuse the two.
I didn't interpret your words as telling someone what to do, you simply told someone what to do and I read it. If you believe that that speaks ill of you then maybe you should stop telling people what to do.
I think I've addressed this issue. But think for one moment... If I am not breathing fresh air, why would I want to advocate it?
There is a rather unusual reptuation of me going around that I am house bound... Think about the fact that I'm advocating nature.
Because being over philosophical, pushy and slightly irritating is what teenagers do..? Your heart's in the right place, I'm sure. but it's still a pointless battle. Gaming gives people alot of happiness and it's not for you (clearly a nice but naive, sensitive young man) to 'convince' them otherwise. Leave people alone. There are plenty of bigger and better organisations out there that can give anyone wanting a bit of nature a good time.
Instead of trying so desperately to convert people to what you like, why don't you focus on getting some like minded friends and/or make your brother a salad and a kick up the **** to get a little more active? If you manage to help him live happier and healthier then you might be alright to try and help others. (start with the hungry and homeless)
And regarding the housebound aura you give off.. well, that's self inflicted mate. You certainly don't come across as a person who's been particularly well integrated in the real world and sadly give off that armchair philosophor vibe..
Your advice has been taken on-board.Because being over philosophical, pushy and slightly irritating is what teenagers do..? Your heart's in the right place, I'm sure. but it's still a pointless battle. Gaming gives people alot of happiness and it's not for you (clearly a nice but naive, sensitive young man) to 'convince' them otherwise. Leave people alone. There are plenty of bigger and better organisations out there that can give anyone wanting a bit of nature a good time.
Instead of trying so desperately to convert people to what you like, why don't you focus on getting some like minded friends and/or make your brother a salad and a kick up the **** to get a little more active? If you manage to help him live happier and healthier then you might be alright to try and help others. (start with the hungry and homeless)
And regarding the housebound aura you give off.. well, that's self inflicted mate. You certainly don't come across as a person who's been particularly well integrated in the real world and sadly give off that armchair philosophor vibe..
Thanks, Samon.
It's quite clear that trying to turn over a new leaf and being extremely polite to all of you throughout this rather long thread has gotten me nowhere. I can't win, can I? You'll notice that everything I've posted in this thread and out since the "turning over a new leaf" thread has been entirely positive and polite. I've taken all of your advice on-board and I've genuinely listened to what you all had to say regarding my humble little idea and I thank you for it sincerely, but there's a serious vibe of negativity towards me that I myself didn't create in this thread. I think if you read this thread over, you'll find it really quite obvious that I am trying to be a new person. I'm trying to really listen and change myself and this idea was genuinely of positive intentions. It appears some of you are trying to turn it all against me and misconstrue everything so that it appears I'm just wanting people to do what I want. Some of you less aggressive people know that I truely have good intentions and that I meant no harm whatsoever.
This was me appealing to the BCUK community for a second chance, but it appears it hasn't really helped. The new leaf has been turned and it's going to stay that way, but I'll chalk all the passive agressive coldness towards me as being a remnant of my previous threads and hope that it passes. Because believe me, I regret everything I said in that thread.
Please accept my apology for all the horrible things I said in that thread.
I thank everyone who has been supportive here.
This was me appealing to the BCUK community for a second chance, but it appears it hasn't really helped. The new leaf has been turned and it's going to stay that way, but I'll chalk all the passive agressive coldness towards me as being a remnant of my previous threads and hope that it passes. Because believe me, I regret everything I said in that thread.
Please accept my apology for all the horrible things I said in that thread.
I thank everyone who has been supportive here.
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You posted a item which you yourself titled controversial... that is going to bring about a lively debate without a doubt. In all debates there will be negatives and positives towards the subject matter.
Added to that is your past history of various threads that seemed extremely negative etc. They may not have been in your eyes but they appeared that way to a lot of people. Unfortunately that is still fresh in peoples minds so it's take a while to for peoples attitudes to you to adjust so give it that time.
As for your new leaf thread I commend you for it. It took a lot of courage to open up and be as honest as you were about yourself. Don't regret what I saw as a positive thread that might help change peoples opinions towards you.
You still have the right to argue your point though, mate. Just because you've convinced yourself that you need to change doesn't mean you actually do. If I or anyone else has rubbed you the wrong way un/intentionally, you are allowed to speak your mind about it.
Wow guys, way to pile on this guy, especially you Shaggystu. You took someone trying to promote advocacy of the benefits of outdoors as "telling people what to do" and did it in a mean way.
I think a lot of people in this thread were being productive, and a lot weren't. This guy is excited about the outdoors and just trying to spread the enjoyment. Being a former heavy gamer myself I get where he is coming from.
THOaken, it's a good idea, but I'm not sure how successful it would be. If I were you I'd find some buds to spread the fun to first and lay off this forum for a while. Some people obviously just want to stir up stuff with you.
Good luck.
I think a lot of people in this thread were being productive, and a lot weren't. This guy is excited about the outdoors and just trying to spread the enjoyment. Being a former heavy gamer myself I get where he is coming from.
THOaken, it's a good idea, but I'm not sure how successful it would be. If I were you I'd find some buds to spread the fun to first and lay off this forum for a while. Some people obviously just want to stir up stuff with you.
Good luck.
I appreciate all that you've said, but their dislike of me is not unfounded... I'll explain later in another post.
But thank you.
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