To Approach a Controversial Subject

[decorum]

This is all great advice, friend, and I really appreciate your writing all of that, but I think you might be misjudging the scope of what I want to do initially. Those are all things one might do if he were a ranger or worked for an organization. I mearly want to have initial conversations with some people on the internet.

Thanks again.

Ah, right ... Massive misjudgement of scope I think. I, erroneously it seems, thought even a short term scope would eventually include helping people to get out and appreciate rather than remain at the level of just talking about it. I stand (whilst sat at the computer) corrected.


Perhaps it would be best to join a gaming site and say something along the lines of 'How do you like to stretch you legs? I like 'x,y,z' game(s) but I also like the great outdoors.'

 

[THOaken]

Ah, right ... Massive misjudgement of scope I think. I, erroneously it seems, thought even a short term scope would eventually include helping people to get out and appreciate rather than remain at the level of just talking about it. I stand (whilst sat at the computer) corrected.


Perhaps it would be best to join a gaming site and say something along the lines of 'How do you like to stretch you legs? I like 'x,y,z' game(s) but I also like the great outdoors.'

That's no problem. The idea is a humble one. I would like to involve more people in the future, however. I had the idea to involve a ranger I worked for, but of course I've moved country.

That's what I'm going to do, definitely. I'm still a member of some of those types of forums and I know quite a lot of popular ones, so that seems like the thing to do.

 

[Ivan...]

Slightly off topic, if you will for a second.

Anyone prepared to lay me a bit of 6/4 this thread has gone by dawn?

Ivan...

 

[Stringmaker]

I didn't, he's a stranger from the internet, I only take things personally when they're directed at me personally by someone who knows me personally, cheers anyway

No worries

 

[MertzMan]

I didn't, he's a stranger from the internet, I only take things personally when they're directed at me personally by someone who knows me personally, cheers anyway

Very wise.

 

[shaggystu]

...Anyone prepared to lay me a bit of 6/4 this thread has gone by dawn?....

Bit long for me Ivan to be honest, evens?

 

[THOaken]

I also don't claim to know more than anyone here. There are so many hundreds of people on this forum who know boundless amounts of knowledge I can only dream of ever knowing. You make a thread and you get responses all helpful and all written by someone who has experience. I've been on this forum for almost a year now and I've learnt so much, yet I don't claim to be better than anyone else. There are so many people here who actually have influence and the knowledge to start a real campaign. I'm mearly bringing up the idea, trying to get the concept up in the air and look, we've had a nice discussion about it. There have been pressing questions, all of which I feel I've addressed adequately and politely. I'm sure there have been many threads like this, but I'm not ashamed to try to bring up the subject again if that's the case. We've had a good discussion and that's something.

 

[Will_]

Slightly off topic, if you will for a second.

Anyone prepared to lay me a bit of 6/4 this thread has gone by dawn?

Ivan...

So that's what has happened to the two other threads I was following! They've been smitten by admin!
I think this is a good thread & if it gets people outdoors a good idea!
I don't play games much, but I played Skyrim and loved it!
Games like these involve foraging and other bushcrafty things (like hacking up people with an axe and hiding the bodies )
It could be good to start with these sorts of games...
It's just trying to turn people's fantasies into realities... Apart from the hacking people up with an axe fantasies...
P.S.
If anyone second guesses or criticises this post, I'll edit it and make you look like a chump

 

[Stringmaker]

To lighten the tone a little I have a suggestion:

There is obviously a gap in the gaming market.

What is needed is "World of Bushcraft"

Level 1 is where you enter the dark scary wood with just a box of matches and a knife and try not to get killed by anything or anyone lurking within.

The possibilities are as endless as current games; you add skills, knowledge, experience and thus gain extra lives, credibility and status. There will be networking options so you can compare your shelter building skills with your on-line buddies and laugh at their spoon carving.

Just remember where you heard the idea first

 

[santaman2000]

......It's obviously a very controversial topic and I'm aware of how pushy and, worse, preachy it'd sound, so I'd only go ahead with an idea like this if I knew I could persuade these people to venture out into the woods without degrading them or their hobby. It could very easily sound like I'm saying “you're wasting your life on the computer. Go outdoors and see the true beauty of nature in all its vibrancy and complexity”, and I don't want that. I'd need to strike a balance between the two, tell them that it's possible to combine the two and enjoy them both and gradually one will spend less time playing games indoors......

I think a more positive approach would be better. Rather than saying, "You're wasting your life on the computer. Go outdoors and see the real thing." You might want to embrace their use of the computer. What I mean is that when they share an outdoorsy site with you that they've found on the computer, say something like, "Wow! That's great; I'd love to see it for real. Wouldn't you?"

 

[THOaken]

I think a more positive approach would be better. Rather than saying, "You're wasting your life on the computer. Go outdoors and see the real thing." You might want to embrace their use of the computer. What I mean is that when they share an outdoorsy site with you that they've found on the computer, say something like, "Wow! That's great; I'd love to see it for real. Wouldn't you?"

Please read my other posts. That is exactly what I'd like to do. Have you read my other posts, friend? The whole idea is about positivity.

 

[Samon]

You're certainly gaining forum fame rather quickly mate! There hasn't been such highly viewed and smoking hot threads on here in bloody ages.

Seriosuly though, why not just get outside, make some friends and breath in the fresh air?

Wind in the philosophical bs for a few weeks and have a bit of fun dude. It seems you're taking everything so seriously and un/intentionally being one of those young odd ball sorts that refuses to fit in. Something as niche as 'bushcraft' that just happens to have quite a few 'anorak' types and you still stick out like asore thumb! lol

I can't help but feel this sudden desire to help a few gamer types is strange. Like a weird one who's just found jesus and wants to ram it down everyones neck..

Sorry if that comes across as an attack, it's not meant to be but I (and clearly others) can't help but notice your slightly unusal behavior..

 

[THOaken]

To lighten the tone a little I have a suggestion:

There is obviously a gap in the gaming market.

What is needed is "World of Bushcraft"

Level 1 is where you enter the dark scary wood with just a box of matches and a knife and try not to get killed by anything or anyone lurking within.

The possibilities are as endless as current games; you add skills, knowledge, experience and thus gain extra lives, credibility and status. There will be networking options so you can compare your shelter building skills with your on-line buddies and laugh at their spoon carving.

Just remember where you heard the idea first

Haha. Great idea. I played World of Warcraft for, er, six years. No kidding.

Lighten the mood, though? Please refer to my post #87

 

[Will_]

What is needed is "World of Bushcraft"

I like it! Ray Mears could be one of the bosses You'd have to start a friction fire faster than him.
Or fake a crevice jump more convincingly than Bear Grylls

 

[THOaken]

Seriosuly though, why not just get outside, make some friends and breath in the fresh air?

I think I've addressed this issue. But think for one moment... If I am not breathing fresh air, why would I want to advocate it?

I know you're not attacking me, but I've already said that I do go outside... I don't post what I do on this forum a lot. Just yesterday I went outside and identified some trees. There is a rather unusual reptuation of me going around that I am house bound... Think about the fact that I'm advocating nature.

 

[decorum]

>>> The idea is a humble one. I would like to involve more people in the future, <<<

Then start laying the base now ~ a qualification in presentation skills looks good on the CV so, whether this idea goes sky rockets or nowhere, that's a win-win .

>>> I had the idea to involve a ranger I worked for, but of course I've moved country.

What, in the future, would you do if said extra bod was taken ill or too injured to run things for you? Get yourself trained!

 

[Ivan...]

Bit long for me Ivan to be honest, evens?

I don't very often laugh out loud to stuff i read on here, but you sir made that happen! Well done, but you drive a hard bargain, i will have a monkey on at wrist, any good?

very funny, liked that! Seeing as up the arm is too big.

Ivan...

 

[santaman2000]

Please read my other posts. That is exactly what I'd like to do. Have you read my other posts, friend? The whole idea is about positivity.

Sorry but no, I haven't read the whole thread. it was just a suggestion how to sound less preachy. To be honest though it's going to be an uphill climb no matter what direction you go. Most people already have their preferences and you're either lokely going to be "preaching to the choir" or to "deaf ears."

 

[Will_]

You're certainly gaining forum fame rather quickly mate! There hasn't been such highly viewed and smoking hot threads on here in bloody ages.

So true! I am literally clicking on threads just because you started them THOaken!

 

[THOaken]

Sorry but no, I haven't read the whole thread. it was just a suggestion how to sound less preachy. To be honest though it's going to be an uphill climb no matter what direction you go. Most people already have their preferences and you're either lokely going to be "preaching to the choir" or to "deaf ears."

I understand that, friend. Just try not to post unless you've read the whole thread because you missed quite a lot I think.

Cheers.