Post removed: Without wanting to add any slant all I can say is that I hope he gives him self up soon.
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That Chap Evading the Authorities in Northumberland
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It's a paraphrase of a line from a song by the Smiths called 'This Charming Man'. It jumped into my head when typing my post.
EDIT: I've always sung the line that way about myself.
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good points, well made. it is indeed a sensitive subject. obviously with grieving relatives to consider, i hope that folks will continue to employ a certain amount of decorum whilst posting.
cheers, and.
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Actually I do have a question to ask, and it is just that so should not be taken a provocative in any way!
If the police aren't allowed to engage unless there is a real threat to civilians or police, what's the point in bringing out the snipers? Surely if they're not allowed to engage then a bloke with a telescope is just as good!
Is it just to scare Moat and keep him on his toes?
If the police aren't allowed to engage unless there is a real threat to civilians or police, what's the point in bringing out the snipers? Surely if they're not allowed to engage then a bloke with a telescope is just as good!
Is it just to scare Moat and keep him on his toes?
There may be an element of 'security theatre' but I imagine them to be covering certain points -- roadblocks and such -- just in case he arrives there and... poses a direct risk.
surely though if he does pose a direct to officers on the ground then it would be safer and easier to take him out with the officers around him? The reason I ask is the pictures I've seen of them have been of them scanning aross fields rather than in built up areas, have they posted them in the town itself too?
Depends on opportunity, cover and arcs of fire. Best to have all opportunities covered in case things go wrong, as they usually do in these situations. When the safety of civilians are concerned, those in charge will want zero chance of escape or anyone getting harmed. It may seem extreme, but if it does go pear shaped, people will ask why those options were not covered when they could have been. It is also extra eyes on the immediate area.
ahhh o.k cheers jon........all seems rather military to me! Call in the 22nd airborne they'll catch him!
ooooh i don't know....... you're of course right but there would be serious questions raised if he got taken out by a member of the army, wouldn't there?
I doubt it. (Actually, yes, there'll be questions, but this is an armed and proven deadly killer who has threatened all-out war on the police. Specialist Army units have already been called in to provide logistical and tactical support and technology, and my guess is that they'll make the first contact if he stays in the woods. If he opens fire, and the Army are there, they will respond in kind.) From talking to friends in the past who were in the Police Armed Response teams, this is not their field of expertise.
One phone call to Aldershot (used to be Church Crookham), and to paraphrase Montgomery Burns in The Simpsons...
Smithers... Release the Gurkhas... Worked wonders in 1982, Falklands.
In years gone by, about 12, by my reckoning, when I was still involved with rifle shooting..... I had the kit, the training ,and the knowledge for just this kinda job. I would have offered my services for free, even considered it a civic duty to help out.
I'm not going to go into details, but at the time, and probably even now, there are many more riflemen outside the police force who are capable of hitting a 'target' at 600+m...... Some even at 1 mile +
While I support the police, I recognise that they may be limited by kit or training.
I'm not going to go into details, but at the time, and probably even now, there are many more riflemen outside the police force who are capable of hitting a 'target' at 600+m...... Some even at 1 mile +
While I support the police, I recognise that they may be limited by kit or training.
That would be really interesting.... Helicopter tannoy.... Gurkhas are sharpening Kukhris now, you have a 5 minute head start ..!
Not entirely an answer to your question, but have you noticed the kit? They're not MP5 9mm SMGs, they're H&K (whatever model) collapsible stock rifles. (Magazine is a giveaway). They're expecting ranges beyond 100m, I think.
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