In our case (the US) it has more to do with lawyers seeing deep pockets. If there wasn’t money to be made, no lawsuits would be filed. In that respect the UK has a saner attitude regarding lawsuits. Or at least they did when I was there; some previous posts/threads here have indicated it may be changing.
So tell me, what experience have you had from any doctor outside a socialized medical system? I have the ability to compare personal experiences. Do you? Neither did Alphie. He could have. He was accepted as a patient by at least two other systems at no cost to the NHS or to his family; but was denied the right to leave a system that or only wrote him off for dead, but was too arrogant to let his family seek care elsewhere. Go ahead; try to spin that. I’ll wait.About the same as I do from you. Although your posts and comments have been most educational, and I must applaud you. You are most definitely an asset to this forum.
No doctors here “sell” themselves in the context of your statement. As Jane says they (doctors, hospitals, etc) do indeed advertise the services they offer and sometimes the equipment they have access too (newer lasers are more efficient and precise than older ones as an example)My brother's a Doctor. He says the biggest difference in medicine in the UK vs places like the USA is simply that in the healthcare elsewhere has to sell it self, constantly sell itself. It has to advertise, the individuals have to advertise and drum up business for themselves/their hospital, etc., they have to promote the latest 'bestest' treatments even if they're really just old ones in new wrappings (He calls it baffling with bullsh1t) . This leads to the constant offering of competing options, often unneeded options but the patients who 'self refer' feel they have a choice that fits their budget but makes them feel good about it.....or not if they can't afford the best options.
We just go to the local GP or emergency clinic, or phone NHS24 (unless it's a heart attack or stroke or suspected issue of either, then we simply phone an ambulance directly (free, doesn't cost us a penny, and they 'blue light' it to us, takes about ten minutes for here, I know that's within the ideal parameters, but it's real, and most of the folks in my country live in fairly similar circumstances, rural communities do have constraints re travel, though the helicopters and small planes do bring islanders and very remote patients to the hospitals when it's necessary) and after a consultation we're either given a diagnosis/prescription/referral to specialists or sent to see Shona (the phlebotomist and then things are reviewed after the results are back.
It's really pretty fuss free. They even do evening and weekend consultations these days too.
Put it this way, round here healthcare isn't something we worry about. It's good, it's efficient, here it's pretty quick too. There is no perfectly flexible system, but they're trying, and it's an on-going and evolving thing. No one's saying it's perfect, but it's not the nightmare that places that have their healthcare professionals and insurance companies selling themselves and drugs and specific hospitals, etc., would have the gullible believe.
We do have horror stories of how bad it is in other countries, and how horrendously expensive it is. How incredibly stressful it is, and how that stress and worry continues for years, often after the original issue has been resolved.
Money comes first elsewhere is how we view it, not healthcare.
We do know that there are mistakes made in any system, but on the whole, here it works as it ought for the vast majority.
We do have access to private healthcare, many now have it as part of their work, my sons do. Neither accesses it, there are too many restrictions, too many limitations of who they can see, where they can go, etc., just too much hassle, for two healthy young men to be bothered. They do have colleagues who have used it, one lady to get her bunions dealt with and another for elective surgery on 'something female'. Another man used it to access knee replacement surgery, the NHS said it was fixable with exercise, physiotherapy and minor surgery. At his age I'd have gone with the NHS, new knees don't last forever, and who really wants surgery again ? but it was his choice, and he still had to pay a fair bit towards it. Each to their own.
Aye, indeed, lot of money in 'private' healthcare it seems.
Social healthcare is a very good thing, and the majority of folks in my country aren't just contented with it, but very much pleased with it.
Interestingly the statistics show that people in the USA pay more for 'social healthcare' (for those on low income, veterans, disabled, etc., ) that we do for everybody's healthcare. Strange really that most cannot access social healthcare but are the ones who pay for it. Here we all pay for it, and we all access it.
Anyway, to the O.T. it sounds as though Tengu's dental woes have been efficiently dealt with, and no doubt at minimal expense too. Hopefully future check ups will be less and less stressful for her.
I at retired from my second (and final) paying career in 2010 at 53 years young. I’m now just n my third career, a non paying (financially non paying) as a grandfather.Weird date.
You believe the Earth disc will flip?
I hope nothing, as I plan to retire that year, 67 years young!