Reading all of the posts it has hit a few raw nerves. I semi agree with Wayland, and the fact he was trying to protect common land that should be cared for by the council and the greater community in the vincinty of this plot of land is highly commendable and something that all of us that have an interest in the countryside should be doing. But, may be as pointed out by others it could have been better handled for example the way Wayland pointed the errors of being with out a shovel, to me this is a poor and a bit condesending method of teaching someone (Wayland, sorry if i read this wrong.) I feel the same as others have pointed out, even though fed up with people screwing things up by poor camping skills leaving rubbish, fires etc, we all need to learn somewhere, somehow, and the only way to learn is from those who know and who are willing to pass on knowledge. From, what i have read there are more than enough guys on this forum who do teach and pass on skills through this site, in gatherings or through their own website. But teaching people who are seeking out knowledge is easy, those who are coasting through life not aware of the mistakes and errors they are making is a whole different ball game. Maybe that couple were just starting out to enjoy the countryside, and we're trying to get it right only to get stopped in their tracks, maybe after this encounter they said sod it, why bother.
