Yes I used sabres as an example, I believe all of the above would be covered by sporting activity.
Offensive Weapons Act 2019: surrender and compensation scheme. December 2020 - March 2021
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Was that "There are also many martial arts programs that still teach the throwing star."?
This is a good read
Weapons Training & the Possession of Offensive Weapons With Regard to UK Law – by Danny Barnard | Lewis Nedas
I am often asked by practitioners of martial arts the legal position in relation to carrying weapons in a public place. I hope the following clarifies this issue and is of some use to those training with weapons. The law in this area falls under Section 1 of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953...
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I have not heard of the Medieval Fighting Society. There is a Medieval Combat Society in the UK, but their combat is knights in period dress (armour), using a style of "combat" that is "safe, highly enjoyable, and yet entertaining for the public to watch." They also do archery, dancing and encampments for the whole family. They are in no danger from the offensive weapon legislation.
A rather more serious organisation would be the HEMA Alliance, which is international and holds actual fencing style matches with a variety of weapons. As the legislation only applies to metal swords with curved blades and provides for defences related to sporting activities, there is still a lot of scope for such matches to carry on.
Would really like some clarification on the hand forged and traditional made business?
I am not sure what they are trying to say with that at all.
How much would a hand forged Katana cost? A national treasure one would be astronomically I would have thought.
The legislation is not designed to take them out of the hands of true collectors or sports enthusiasts, it’s to get them from people’s bedsides and behind the front door.
as Mr Claycomb says it’s the seaside novelty shop samurai/Klingon blades that are being targeted.
Years ago I visited Doc Price's forge down in Plymouth as part of a BB hammer-in. I got to see some of his collection of Japanese style swords. He did a bit of mixing on some, forging them from Wootz that he made himself.
Calling things hand forged might be read a couple of different ways. Most sword smiths (and many bladesmiths in general) use some form of press and/or power hammer. The blades are still refined with hand held hammers, but the grunt work of drawing out is done with help.
Defining traditionally made is going to remain vague. I doubt that it would be insisted that its only traditional if forged from tamahagane, but can well imagine that forging would be required.
A slight change of subject, but if you want a bit of a mind blowing look at sword making, you need to look at Kyle Royer's Excelsior project on Youtube.
Calling things hand forged might be read a couple of different ways. Most sword smiths (and many bladesmiths in general) use some form of press and/or power hammer. The blades are still refined with hand held hammers, but the grunt work of drawing out is done with help.
Defining traditionally made is going to remain vague. I doubt that it would be insisted that its only traditional if forged from tamahagane, but can well imagine that forging would be required.
A slight change of subject, but if you want a bit of a mind blowing look at sword making, you need to look at Kyle Royer's Excelsior project on Youtube.
I am not grabbing my Bat'leth and screaming "Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam" at an intruder.
Defining traditional with Katanas would be a complete nightmare.
That looks really interesting. Strangely fascinated by sword and knife making with almost no desire to do it myself. I watch way too much Forged in Fire.
so we are talking bronze, or iron? Why stop there? Its not really traditional unless it is made or styled as per the Palaeolithic. But, since one cannot chip a katana from stone, nor cast one from bronze, I guess we will have to allow that the tradition of making those is tied to forging.
I don't know of any bronze Japanese swords but the Chinese Goujian sword was definitely bronze (though quite short and not curved). I don't think the curved steel swords of Japan appeared until about the 8th century - I may be wrong, it's a long time since I was into this stuff
As you said, the term "traditional method" is wide open
As you said, the term "traditional method" is wide open
That sort of my point, if you use a power hammer are you still traditional enough or do you have to spend 10 years training 2 people to alternatively hit the iron?Traditional traditional would be cast of course
If you have a Viking Sword is it traditional enough when we are not 100% how they forged them?
How experimental does your archaeology have to be to be traditional enough?
The thing I do not get is I bet us sensible adults could re-write all these laws into a nice simple clear 2 pages that makes perfect sense to everyone.
"....from people's bedsides and behind the front door?" I can see a desire to take them out of a criminals hands but why on earth would you want to take away what sounds like a last ditch defense from a homeowner/renter?
"....from people's bedsides and behind the front door?" I can see a desire to take them out of a criminals hands but why on earth would you want to take away what sounds like a last ditch defense from a homeowner/renter?
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