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More of a Jewlers vice than a fly tiers I reckon, why all the width? The fly vices I've seen all clamp to a table. Very nice bit of kit anyway but £45?!
Becuse of the excessive rust I left it in the citric acid over night. A few light taps with a hide mallet got the wing nut turning But it took a hammer and block of wood to get the main bolt out. I applied releasing oil to the hinge and some more work with the hide mallet got it moving. Some more oil and heating up on the wire wheel has got it moving lovely, to the extent that the spring is doing its job and opening the jaws when the wing nut is turned. A good go on the wire wheel removed the residue and residual rust. The grey lump turned out not to be a blob of lead but a brazed repair ( I think ) which seams sound .
A makers mark was revealed, a Phoenix rising from the flames with a T one side of the neck and a G on the other,. I've not been able to trace who's mark it is. At this point I'm assuming it predates the requirement to have "Made in England" or "Foreign" etc stamped on.
I will source a suitable washer to go between the wing nut and the body, bronze 1" to 1.25" with a 1/2" hole ideally.
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Tom
Ps you can get them new quite cheap
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-30785-100-Hand-Vice/dp/B0002BUQ24
But there's plenty of them uk made at carboots for peanuts .
Becuse of the excessive rust I left it in the citric acid over night. A few light taps with a hide mallet got the wing nut turning But it took a hammer and block of wood to get the main bolt out. I applied releasing oil to the hinge and some more work with the hide mallet got it moving. Some more oil and heating up on the wire wheel has got it moving lovely, to the extent that the spring is doing its job and opening the jaws when the wing nut is turned. A good go on the wire wheel removed the residue and residual rust. The grey lump turned out not to be a blob of lead but a brazed repair ( I think ) which seams sound .
A makers mark was revealed, a Phoenix rising from the flames with a T one side of the neck and a G on the other,. I've not been able to trace who's mark it is. At this point I'm assuming it predates the requirement to have "Made in England" or "Foreign" etc stamped on.
I will source a suitable washer to go between the wing nut and the body, bronze 1" to 1.25" with a 1/2" hole ideally.
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Tom
Ps you can get them new quite cheap
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-30785-100-Hand-Vice/dp/B0002BUQ24
But there's plenty of them uk made at carboots for peanuts .
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The Priory set and snap arrived so I got to finish the last two axe masks.
3.5 to 4 mill veg tan, 3 layers. The lad requested poppers on his so since I've never trusted them I put two on . They are robust being for awnings. To trim the three layers edges I dug out my old aeromodelling planes , one takes normal razor blades and the other a thicker version that only fits their brand of plane. Any road it worked a lot better than me trimming with a new scalpel blade as I had done in the past.
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3.5 to 4 mill veg tan, 3 layers. The lad requested poppers on his so since I've never trusted them I put two on . They are robust being for awnings. To trim the three layers edges I dug out my old aeromodelling planes , one takes normal razor blades and the other a thicker version that only fits their brand of plane. Any road it worked a lot better than me trimming with a new scalpel blade as I had done in the past.
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Well folks, I've just refound these, bought from the ex military tool stall on Burnley Wednesday flea. And that's been gone at least 5 years now.
5 unissued government shipwrights caulking tools. 4 made by C I Jenkinsons and Son of Sheffield under the NILOC brand (supposedly his Christian name in reverse ) and one by "J G" which I should know as I've other stuff made by them for the army but my minds a blank.
All they needed was a light run over the wire wheel.
Why I got them I have no idea, I can't even swim and have no intention of having a boat! So at some point they will be up for swaps and then onto eBay if no one bites. No idea what I paid for them.
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5 unissued government shipwrights caulking tools. 4 made by C I Jenkinsons and Son of Sheffield under the NILOC brand (supposedly his Christian name in reverse ) and one by "J G" which I should know as I've other stuff made by them for the army but my minds a blank.
All they needed was a light run over the wire wheel.
Why I got them I have no idea, I can't even swim and have no intention of having a boat! So at some point they will be up for swaps and then onto eBay if no one bites. No idea what I paid for them.
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Tom
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Since I won't be booting tomorrow for various reasons, not least the forecast heavy rain, we did a quick tour of the Colne charity shops and my tool guy in the indoor market.
First off a rather nice condition double bed pure wool blanket made for the COOP in the UK £2.99
80p s worth of embroidery wools
A 40 x 60 inch skirt length of UK madelight weight pure wool cloth by RaurnSello ( well that's what's woven on the selvage ) £1.
A beautifully made stainless steel draw hoe with a new long ash handle from my tool guy £8. Stamped on it is Prestiege Stainless England. Should make keeping the weeds down in the spring easier!
Shears made by Ward and Payne of Sheffield £2, in such good condition I won't restore them, just make a sheath. And know I don't have a sheep before you ask....
Two drills with no. 1 morse tapers to fit on my lathe, until I get a Jacobs chuck with the right size taper , 1/2 " Dormer HSS and a 13/64" INTAL 50p each.
Two set and snaps, 3/16" Robt Sorby 1945 arrow mark and a another 3/16 of currently unknown provenance until I de rust it 50p each.
After pics when I've done them up, where required.
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First off a rather nice condition double bed pure wool blanket made for the COOP in the UK £2.99
80p s worth of embroidery wools
A 40 x 60 inch skirt length of UK madelight weight pure wool cloth by RaurnSello ( well that's what's woven on the selvage ) £1.
A beautifully made stainless steel draw hoe with a new long ash handle from my tool guy £8. Stamped on it is Prestiege Stainless England. Should make keeping the weeds down in the spring easier!
Shears made by Ward and Payne of Sheffield £2, in such good condition I won't restore them, just make a sheath. And know I don't have a sheep before you ask....
Two drills with no. 1 morse tapers to fit on my lathe, until I get a Jacobs chuck with the right size taper , 1/2 " Dormer HSS and a 13/64" INTAL 50p each.
Two set and snaps, 3/16" Robt Sorby 1945 arrow mark and a another 3/16 of currently unknown provenance until I de rust it 50p each.
After pics when I've done them up, where required.
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Tom
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Well, I got the stuff in the picture....
Ah, for some reason I can't attach pics until it's been saved and I go in and edit it. No idea if it's a iPad thing or not.
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Ah, for some reason I can't attach pics until it's been saved and I go in and edit it. No idea if it's a iPad thing or not.
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The set and snaps cleaned up well and the morse taper drills just needed a good polish on the tapers. At least now I can do accurately centred holes in any handles I turn.
The other set and snap is marked, very faintly , "Priory England", so a decent make. I can use one in the vice to support the rivet and set and snap with the other.
Now to get some 3/16 copper rivets.
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The other set and snap is marked, very faintly , "Priory England", so a decent make. I can use one in the vice to support the rivet and set and snap with the other.
Now to get some 3/16 copper rivets.
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Tom
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Technically not car boot, to be honest I wouldn't have wasted owt on something in such poor nick, but old and restored so I thought I'd put a post up.
The wife's parents are emptying their cottage ( the beast house part of a 16th C cottage half way up Sugarloaf in the Brecon Beacons) before selling it as they are getting past looking after the place so have been passing on stuff. Amongst some garden tools was a solid lump of rust and wormy wood that was the big sickle herself remembers her dad using back in the '70s. The wood was past saving and it took two goes with the wire wheel and hot citric acid bath to de rust it. In the process the stick tang wore so thin that I had to crop it by two inches to get solid enough metal to rivet over a washer I had to inset in the beech handle I turned.
I dug out the NOS sharpening rod I picked up on spec a while back and supporting the blade gave it about a hundred low angle swipes each side. Not sure if you normally bother to strop one of these, I've not seen anyone do so so far so left it as is. I've turned my nose up at any number of better condition ones ( looking for one with a tighter curve in it to fake a Saxon one from but had no joy )
Its sharp , I'll say that. Not sure where she will store it, will find some split tube to guard the edge. I'll give her a spare lump hammer and she can hang them crossed on a beam!
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The wife's parents are emptying their cottage ( the beast house part of a 16th C cottage half way up Sugarloaf in the Brecon Beacons) before selling it as they are getting past looking after the place so have been passing on stuff. Amongst some garden tools was a solid lump of rust and wormy wood that was the big sickle herself remembers her dad using back in the '70s. The wood was past saving and it took two goes with the wire wheel and hot citric acid bath to de rust it. In the process the stick tang wore so thin that I had to crop it by two inches to get solid enough metal to rivet over a washer I had to inset in the beech handle I turned.
I dug out the NOS sharpening rod I picked up on spec a while back and supporting the blade gave it about a hundred low angle swipes each side. Not sure if you normally bother to strop one of these, I've not seen anyone do so so far so left it as is. I've turned my nose up at any number of better condition ones ( looking for one with a tighter curve in it to fake a Saxon one from but had no joy )
Its sharp , I'll say that. Not sure where she will store it, will find some split tube to guard the edge. I'll give her a spare lump hammer and she can hang them crossed on a beam!
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tom
I did a light refurb on this one, was pretty caked when I found it, totally usable now though. Mid handle process but I can bash that off an trade it if you're interested mate.
Thanks very much for the offer but it's one with a tighter curve to it and a bit smaller that I need to fake up a Anglo Saxon one. The same rough shape as no. 4 here
http://scytheworks.ca/blades.html
As far as I know no definitely AS sickle has ever been dug up but there's several illustrations from the late AS period in manuscripts that show them. Forged without the riveted spine you get on some stamped ones and a stick tang.
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http://scytheworks.ca/blades.html
As far as I know no definitely AS sickle has ever been dug up but there's several illustrations from the late AS period in manuscripts that show them. Forged without the riveted spine you get on some stamped ones and a stick tang.
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tom
Managed to get to Accrington Flea and lucked out there and in the charity shops, stuff that I was really after kept turning up for peanuts!
Finally found a knackered bowling bowl to turn into a mallet. By the weight it must be LV! Cost me 3 quid but once I've pared off the damaged bits it will make a great head, I've some beech that will be easy to turn into a handle. The hammer was £1.50 and of a shape i'd been after ever since I saw a smith using one making arrow heads. The Yankee screwdriver will clean up lovely, I'll use diamond stones make the blade different from a identical one I already have to fit another size of screw. The weeding claw is a Wilkinson sword, I paid a little over the odds at £2 but it's well made and I can either use it in hand or fix it to a pole. When I say I I mean one of the lads can use it ... The horn is good thick stuff and will end up as several items I want to make, even the leather thong it was hung on will come in handy!
Not strictly Bushy but the pile of books averaged out at 50p each and the 4 watercolour pads ( proper Bockingford not whatever WHS sell now ) came to £5.50 and the 36 Derwent Watercolour pencils, unused and pro UK made rather than student grade was £3. I turned my nose up at unopened boxes of really nice oil colours, pastels and acrylics as they wouldn't get used here, all dirt cheap in the Accrington RSPCA shop.
I'll do pics of the tools when they are cleaned up/ finished.
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tom
Finally found a knackered bowling bowl to turn into a mallet. By the weight it must be LV! Cost me 3 quid but once I've pared off the damaged bits it will make a great head, I've some beech that will be easy to turn into a handle. The hammer was £1.50 and of a shape i'd been after ever since I saw a smith using one making arrow heads. The Yankee screwdriver will clean up lovely, I'll use diamond stones make the blade different from a identical one I already have to fit another size of screw. The weeding claw is a Wilkinson sword, I paid a little over the odds at £2 but it's well made and I can either use it in hand or fix it to a pole. When I say I I mean one of the lads can use it ... The horn is good thick stuff and will end up as several items I want to make, even the leather thong it was hung on will come in handy!
Not strictly Bushy but the pile of books averaged out at 50p each and the 4 watercolour pads ( proper Bockingford not whatever WHS sell now ) came to £5.50 and the 36 Derwent Watercolour pencils, unused and pro UK made rather than student grade was £3. I turned my nose up at unopened boxes of really nice oil colours, pastels and acrylics as they wouldn't get used here, all dirt cheap in the Accrington RSPCA shop.
I'll do pics of the tools when they are cleaned up/ finished.
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tom
Post#404: caulking irons. I actually recognized those! Before the advent of PVC pipe for black-water plumbing in houses here, cast iron pipes were used. The joint cracks were sealed with a greasy, fibrous caulking material called "okum." Plumbers used those tools for the work.
Post#412: this brought a smile to my face: here and there, we have huge trade shows meant to display all sorts of things for new home construction and fittings as well as serious rennovations (eg windows.)
One of the entertainments is "Belt-Sander Drag Races." Wet yourself funny to watch.
Post#412: this brought a smile to my face: here and there, we have huge trade shows meant to display all sorts of things for new home construction and fittings as well as serious rennovations (eg windows.)
One of the entertainments is "Belt-Sander Drag Races." Wet yourself funny to watch.
Cool, that's another use for them I'd not heard of. Although the Army has plenty of boats, well it did, it also has a lot of buildings that need maintaining. Anyhoo I'll be shifting them on as I've no earthly use for them.
back when we were doing the floorboards in the shed rather than hire one for a extended period herself bought me a beeg Makita belt sander . The first time I started it up on the floor it pulled me off my knees and flat on my face! Probably should have read the instructions first...
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back when we were doing the floorboards in the shed rather than hire one for a extended period herself bought me a beeg Makita belt sander . The first time I started it up on the floor it pulled me off my knees and flat on my face! Probably should have read the instructions first...
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Tom
No complaints about Makita in my district, sold in the local hardware store.
Although reading instructions might not be a Man-thing to do, I've discovered a tidbit or two in the books of bumpf.
Currently outlining figures on some wood carvings with a RotoZip. This is a Dremel on steroids, 600W motor turning 30,000rpm.
Reading about the correct direction of travel keeps the tool from jumping out of the wood.
Although reading instructions might not be a Man-thing to do, I've discovered a tidbit or two in the books of bumpf.
Currently outlining figures on some wood carvings with a RotoZip. This is a Dremel on steroids, 600W motor turning 30,000rpm.
Reading about the correct direction of travel keeps the tool from jumping out of the wood.
I must admit to having a real weakness for Makita now, the B&Ds, deWalts Etc I've had have all failed me sooner rather than later so now when I replace I stick with what I trust. I was pleasantly surprised when I found on my Jigsaw "Made in England" the rest seem to be made in the parent country, Japan.
Normally I read the instructions cover to cover, indeed I keep them hidden under a drawer for posterity, there's some in there that the related tool is long gone, I really should have a clear out! I used to be a big time model maker ( no doubt I'll start again ) so reading instructions was something I've always enjoyed. I also actually dont mind asking for directions either.
i do love exploded drawings and illustrated parts lists, especially those drawn in the late 40s and 50s, they really are works of art. I collected them for many a year, small arms related ones mainly. I never was particularly good at technical drawing but I do admire those who were.
I'm rambling so I better sign off!
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Tom
Normally I read the instructions cover to cover, indeed I keep them hidden under a drawer for posterity, there's some in there that the related tool is long gone, I really should have a clear out! I used to be a big time model maker ( no doubt I'll start again ) so reading instructions was something I've always enjoyed. I also actually dont mind asking for directions either.
i do love exploded drawings and illustrated parts lists, especially those drawn in the late 40s and 50s, they really are works of art. I collected them for many a year, small arms related ones mainly. I never was particularly good at technical drawing but I do admire those who were.
I'm rambling so I better sign off!
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Tom
Weathers kept us in so cleaned up the hammer and screwdriver, I didn't go mad polishing the hammers faces, but they are good and smooth. No markings where revealed on it but the sparks that came off were like those off my best hammers so I reckon the steels good. The handles will get more oil over the next few days.
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Ps I also cleaned up the Wilkie weed hook thing, just needed a good scrub, and discovered the screw thread on it matches the one Vileda use on their brooms and mops , saves me having to find a Wilkie one.
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It would seam I've more ratchet screwdrivers than I realised... Not seen any Philips so far.
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