Looking for small trangia stand

[IntrepidStu]

Interesting one. Still not found anything as stable and cheap as the tatonka stand though.

Brilliant idea, no commercial version AFAIK though.

The Evernew trivet fits on the trangia burner - a bit of tinfoil for a windshield and you are good to go.

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product500.asp

 

[mentalnurse]

i have used a clickstand for a bit and find it great , light weight and strong with good wind proofing. got mine from http://www.militarymart.co.uk//index.php but its not on the wed site so you would have to ask for it by phone it was less than a £5 i think

 

[Martyn]

Interesting one. Still not found anything as stable and cheap as the tatonka stand though.

Depends how big your pots are. The Evernew trivet works brilliantly with smaller pots like the 10cm billy, crusader cup, USGI cup, GSI glacier cup etc, all of which struggle for stability on stands with no support in the middle, like the Tatonka, Clikstand, Westwinds etc. The trivet also only weighs 16 grams.

 

[spiritwalker]

just pick up a gelert phoenix copy of the mini trangia think i paid about a tenner for mine in a camping shop

 

[torc]

I've been using the Evernew Ti trivet for a few months now and find it great.
Clickstands are good but balancing a small pot or cup on them is difficult.
Happy trails...torc.

 

[Shewie]

Anyone know where i can get the mini trangia stand on its own (ive got burners and pans already), or suggest a way of making something sturdy and lightweight/compact ?
Cheers guys

Stu

Wire mesh works well, let me know if you want a chunk to try Stu as I've got a big roll of it

 

[FGYT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRXY_qKchVw&feature=player_detailpage .....try this one, you dont have to use it with the army cup.

Ive uses the army cup stand with the burner you dont need the extra triangle of stuff

 

[ged]

...The Evernew trivet fits on the trangia burner...

The burner in the photo in your post looks like the Evernew Martyn, is it yours?

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product500.asp

Looking at the claims for boil times on the page that you linked to, the Evernew burner seems pretty impressive compared to the Trangia. If you've used one, does your experience support their claims? It's probably still a lot less power output than a pressure stove, but definitely an improvement and at the performance they claim I'd say good enough to be in my brew kit when I'm on a tight time budget.

Do you think the trivet slows down the time the burner takes to bloom? I've noticed with the little wire sticks that Trangias (both civvy and military) take a lot longer, probably double. That can be used to advantage if you're cooking, but it's no good if you just want a quick boil.

 

[IntrepidStu]

I find that the most important thing regarding stability is the stability of the actual Meths burner and not the things you put on it. It a pan of water falls of the burner, i can live with that, but if the actual burner itself falls over then you could find yourself having to put out fires. The trivet raises the center of gravity for the whole set up and still relies on the burner for its stability. If a pot falls off the trivet setup, then the burner also falls over, tipping meths everywhere, But if the pot falls of the Tatonka stand, the burner stays where it is. This is what i like about the tatonka setup.....the burner is totaly stable, and for me this is by far the most important thing.

 

[IntrepidStu]

Now this is brilliant. Ill have a look around for some mesh matey, but cheers for the offer.

Stu

 

[Martyn]

The burner in the photo in your post looks like the Evernew Martyn, is it yours?

The pic is from the web Ged, but I do have one and the trivet.

Looking at the claims for boil times on the page that you linked to, the Evernew burner seems pretty impressive compared to the Trangia. If you've used one, does your experience support their claims? It's probably still a lot less power output than a pressure stove, but definitely an improvement and at the performance they claim I'd say good enough to be in my brew kit when I'm on a tight time budget.

Yes I would say so, the Evernew stove definitely burns hotter (and consumes fuel faster), but I think part of the improvement in boil time, is down to where the jets are located on the stove - specifically, how far away they are from the base of the pot. The outer ring of jets (it has 2 rings) is nearly 2cm lower down the body of the burner than on the classic trangia. Pic again for reference...

The actual stove bodies are about identical heights and the trivet sits in the same place on both the evernew and the trangia, but the extra 2cm flame height on the evernew improves performance IMO.

Do you think the trivet slows down the time the burner takes to bloom? I've noticed with the little wire sticks that Trangias (both civvy and military) take a lot longer, probably double. That can be used to advantage if you're cooking, but it's no good if you just want a quick boil.

No, if you put the trivet on straight away, it can interfere with the bloom, I think something to do with air flow rather than heat sinking. But what I do is wait for the stove to bloom before dropping the trivet onto it (the trivet holds it's X shape if held by the lower cross member).

Obvious downside is that the evernew wont seal with fuel inside like the trangia does. Of note, the trangia simmer ring fits the evernew too and works well as a snuffer. Obviously the evernew is a fraction of the weight of the trangia - I really like mine and have taken to using it with the USGI canteen cup and cup stand. Makes a brilliant lightweight kit and loads better than the crusader setup IMO.


Hope that makes sense, I can post some pics if it will help?

 

[Martyn]

I find that the most important thing regarding stability is the stability of the actual Meths burner and not the things you put on it. It a pan of water falls of the burner, i can live with that, but if the actual burner itself falls over then you could find yourself having to put out fires. The trivet raises the center of gravity for the whole set up and still relies on the burner for its stability. If a pot falls off the trivet setup, then the burner also falls over, tipping meths everywhere, But if the pot falls of the Tatonka stand, the burner stays where it is. This is what i like about the tatonka setup.....the burner is totaly stable, and for me this is by far the most important thing.

Have you tried one? The whole thing with trivet included is about 2 - 3 inches high. About half the height of say an optimus crux with a 100g cartridge. I find it very stable.

 

[eel28]

Have just seen the mini Trangia on Amazon for £20 if thats of use? Quite tempted with one myself

 

[Martyn]

Here ya go Ged, hope this makes it clearer....

Both the trangia with trivet and Evernew with trivet...

You can see how the burner jets on the evernew are lower down the stove compared to the classic trangia, I think this is 80% of why the evernew gets better burn times when used with the trivet.

[edit] The rest of this post turned into a bit of a thread hijack, so you can read here if you're interested inthe USGI kit...

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77736&p=943525#post943525

 

[ged]

Hope that makes sense, I can post some pics if it will help?

That all makes perfect sense Martyn, thanks, no need for photos (for me at least. )

Oh, you did them anyway -- and a review! That's great, thanks!

 

[mountainm]

Here ya go Ged, hope this makes it clearer....

Both the trangia with trivet and Evernew with trivet...

You can see how the burner jets on the evernew are lower down the stove compared to the classic trangia, I think this is 80% of why the evernew gets better burn times when used with the trivet.

[edit] The rest of this post turned into a bit of a thread hijack, so you can read here if you're interested inthe USGI kit...

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77736&p=943525#post943525

Works great on the tatonka stove too - as I was fortunate enough to snaffle one from the Gift It On thread.

 

[basha]

of course there's always the 'Westwind' stove...
http://www.moontrail.com/trangia-westwind.php

I think there is (was) a UK dealer.