'interesting' definition of bushcraft

[oetzi]

I dont think that the original post was meant to be anti-polish.
Myself, i understood it as to emphasise thecontrast between the would-be bushcrafters, who depend on money and gear, and people who are from a nation who has not had the most pleasurable history.
(Sorry, I cant explain it better)
Probably more pro-polish.
Or at least much better than the other party pictured: sort of Essex-man (or how did you call those young upstarts from the Thatcher-era) who has read "Walden" too often and idolizes a life in the woods.

 

[waterman]

perhaps the loss of humour is weather derived due to too much time on their hands. Roll on spring so we can forget who we are and where we come from and enjoy our craft under whatever name or desguise it comes under.
take no offense from this as none intended

 

[Tengu]

There are no Poles around here.

I ate them.

(seriously, im rather fond of the Poles, and a lot of other strange furrin types that in many ways I deplore for taking over our country...but we are too weak here to take it back.)

(anyhow, then we would have to cook our own curries.)

 

[johnboy]

There are no Poles around here.

I ate them.

(seriously, im rather fond of the Poles, and a lot of other strange furrin types that in many ways I deplore for taking over our country...but we are too weak here to take it back.)

(anyhow, then we would have to cook our own curries.)

Far out.......is that post for real?

 

[Chris the Cat]

No one is taking over our country!
Thats just gotta be Tengus little joke! Right!??
C da C.

 

[Shewie]

Far out.......is that post for real?

I have to agree, that's a bit sharp Tengu

Or am I missing something ?

 

[fredster]

To be fair, it's quite a humourous post if taken in jest.

Exactly why I posted it - if you can't laugh at yourself, you're really in trouble.

I dont think that the original post was meant to be anti-polish.
Myself, i understood it as to emphasise thecontrast between the would-be bushcrafters, who depend on money and gear, and people who are from a nation who has not had the most pleasurable history.
(Sorry, I cant explain it better)
Probably more pro-polish.

Thats the way I read it too. Obviously this is not the place for a discussion on racial characteristics but I've worked with a few Poles and I've yet to meet a better bunch. Hard workers and great company.

 

[fredster]

Here's the link to the Song of the Paddle thread - good debate going on this one!

http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?22226-Campcraft-vs-Bushcraft

 

[johnboy]

I have to agree, that's a bit sharp Tengu

Or am I missing something ?

I don't think so Rich,

At best it comes across a xenophobic at worst racist. If it's meant to be funny it's in absolutley appalling taste...

I did think it was meant to be a filibusterous type comment but I dont think so.

Sad.....

 

[Arri]

Seriously though.. Can someone please define bushcraft? I for one avoid the use of the term between "muggles"; first of all they'll think I'm a R.M. wannabe or some sort of militia/Rambo freak.

So how do we define people who want to spend time in nature, maybe learn a thing or two about plants and trees, maybe also learn how to track animals and possibly make stuff (either food or tools) using what nature has to give while at the same time being non-destructive towards nature?

Are you "into bushcraft" only if you spend 90% of your time outdoors, eating squirrels and rabbits, and live under a shelter made exclusively out of tree branches and animal hide?

 

[Chris the Cat]

The stuff about the comercial nature of the term 'bushcraft',however,is fair game,agree with it or not.

 

[hertsboy]

"Anyhow. The Polish are very nice people and are just like us. Which is why they come here. They have a connection to our country dating back toi WWII and probably before that. Similarly theRomanians go to France and others head to Germany. Just be glad that someone likes our country other than us."

Hmmm - there are nice Poles and there are horrible Poles, just like any other nationality. The original posting was nothing to do with Poles - it was just making the point that in reality we Bushcrafters are amateurs having a bit of fun, and we are not people who could survive in a hostile environment ---- and that's absolutely true for the vast majority of us, me included.

Yes, we are playing at being wild men. And why not, it's fun - and if it gives us some kudos with our mates, then why not. I know all my friends, including several scoutmasters, think I'm a crazy tough guy just because I like to walk in the mountains and sleep in the woods. So much the better --- I like being admired.

I've even had people I meet ask me if I'm in the army (I'm 55 with grey hair and not much of it!) just because they meet me in the hills carrying a (non-military) backpack with a bivvy bag and a tarp strapped on to it! ........ and maybe with three or four days' stubble on my chin and not stinking of wood smoke.

But it's all great fun and throughly enjoyable.

 

[HillBill]

It made me laugh anyway.

 

[HillBill]

Seriously though.. Can someone please define bushcraft?

You cant, as bushcraft is a generalisation of many diverse skills and fields of knowledge, it encompasses all things outdoors and craft.

 

[zorro]

You cant, as bushcraft is a generalisation of many diverse skills and fields of knowledge, it encompasses all things outdoors and craft.

Spot on chap.

It's like pick and mix, dip in and take from it what you wish, non of it is compulsory.

 

[firecrest]

I like the post lol
I prefer the term ` messing about it the woods!` I just like to be there to be honest, and if its bad weather im not ashamed to admit Id often rather be indoors in my own bed

 

[crushthesystem]

i'm a fisherman and it doesn't seem to matter what time of year it is or what species of fish it is they'll eat it and leave the half eaten charred remains and the left overs of a fire wherever they see fit.

 

[maddave]

Don't worry about the poles..... It's the Mutant Zombie Bikers (or "MZB's) ya need to keep a watchful eye for !!

 

[PREPER]

I can define bushcraft!
Sharing a mutual interest with friends and generally having a good time.

PREPER..............

 

[Toddy]

MOD hat on,

Godwin's law applies; however instead of closing things down, that's why I have edited.
Please do not post statements which could be construed as racist.

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Thank you all in advance for your courtesy.

cheers,
Toddy